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Post by Rick Henry on Sept 7, 2004 22:25:31 GMT -5
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Post by JIM on Sept 7, 2004 22:45:19 GMT -5
Hey Rick I would have to check the Ray Coleman book to be sure but didn't they call themselves The Dick Carpenter Trio? I don't know if the site is still around but there use to be a site from Brazil that was really cool. They had some photos from the MIA tour in Rio. There was also a short audio clip of the Carpenters singing The Girl From Impanema acappela. I love that song so much I wish it had been completed for an album. It is the first song I learned to play well on the keyboard and I can hear Karen in my head singing when I play it. I know its sounds a little Goofus but its true. JIM
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Post by enigma on Sept 8, 2004 8:06:40 GMT -5
Yes I like Ice Tea and I believe they also relaesed Caravan (or were they Spectrum at that point) In any case I would love to see a RCT or DCT collection come out I liked the little I heard on the from the top compilation a whole record would be great!
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Post by Rick Henry on Sept 8, 2004 9:54:13 GMT -5
"Caravan" was done by the trio. I just love that song. I can listen to it over and over, same with "Iced Tea". I really hope the RCT is released someday, what a wonderful gift that would be. "Flat Baroque" is another song recorded by the trio for the 1967 unreleased RCA album. We've identified four so far: The Girl From Ipanema (instrumental, no vocals) Iced Tea Flat Baroque Caravan Does anybody know anymore titles recroded by the early Richard Carpenter Trio?
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Post by JIM on Sept 8, 2004 10:03:05 GMT -5
In Rememberng the Carpenters DCT performs Dancing In The Streets but that contains vocals. Time to research or maybe RC is willing to respond to this question from his web site? JIM
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Post by Rick Henry on Sept 8, 2004 10:09:33 GMT -5
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Post by JIM on Sept 8, 2004 10:38:41 GMT -5
Hi Rick. When it comes to the C's I can't think of anyone but you who has such a vast knowledge of anything related to the C's. Still there is always that chance of finding something long forgotten. I will dig around the net and see what happens. I still think its a great question for RC himself. I will have to work up the nerve to ask him a question or two. Who knows he may really be into awnsering questions about there pre vocal days. JIM
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Post by karen69roland on Sept 8, 2004 11:41:12 GMT -5
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Post by BethMosior on Sept 9, 2004 2:35:46 GMT -5
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Post by Sammy on Sept 9, 2004 15:24:43 GMT -5
Releasing this would be a dream come true for me. I have wanted to hear these songs since I first heard of them over ten years ago.
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Post by Peteruk on Sept 10, 2004 11:40:30 GMT -5
Interesting topic ...Richard has many RCT tracks in his archive : RCA Studio Tracks -recorded Autumn 1966 -RCA passed on this combo and none of these tracks were released ! 1965 /1966 Tracks -similar to Caravan -recorded as demos & rehearsals ..... 1965 >1967 Live Tracks recorded at various small gigs , receptions , weddings etc by Trio Rather than a separate Trio tracks album release , I think Richard is more likely to include more Trio , Spectrum & early Karen Magic Lamp recordings on a future box set -ideally one whole CD of rare early songs & demos ....we can all keep hoping Aside from 4 tracks Rick listed ....other Trio tracks include : Never Been In Love ....possibly an original Richard composition ...? Every Little Thing ....another Beatles cover ....believe this was originally 1965 album track.....? Original -differently arranged 1968 Dancing In The Street R&K performance was completed by another University bassist friend rather than Richard's long term friend Wes Jacobs .... Hope this helps and that Richard will issue in the next few years more Trio and other early tracks ....fascinating to hear the different styles and productions ....come to life... as a prelude to Carpenters ..... Peter
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Post by JIM on Sept 10, 2004 12:16:55 GMT -5
HI Peter! Thanks for all of that great information on the Trio!!! After Rick posted the thread I have searched all around the web for any articles about the trio and there time with RCA. I am still a little confused, which is not all that unusual, about the RCA contract. In the articles I have read, I get the impression that like Roland mentioned, 11 songs were recorded at RCA but were never released. Does this mean there are 11 tracks in the RCA vaults for which there might be a list? Still curious? JIM
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Post by Peteruk on Sept 10, 2004 12:37:53 GMT -5
Hi -yes RCA should hold the masters of studio tracks in their vaults ....but possibly Richard was able to gain these when RCA dropped the Trio ?....certainly hope Richard has these tracks and will issue many more on a early rarities set ..... Peter
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Post by karen69roland on Sept 10, 2004 13:17:35 GMT -5
I hope so, too..., Peter and Jim. [glow=red,2,300][/glow][shadow=red,left,300] [/shadow][shadow=red,left,300]Roland C.[/shadow][shadow=red,left,300] [/shadow]
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Post by Rick Henry on Sept 10, 2004 17:07:28 GMT -5
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Post by enigma on Sept 11, 2004 4:35:35 GMT -5
I do not know how true this is but apparently the RCT have recorded 2 full records for RCA that were never released alot more songs than any of us thought they did (he did not mention the live recordings peter did). Peter: "Rather than a separate Trio tracks album release , I think Richard is more likely to include more Trio , Spectrum & early Karen Magic Lamp recordings on a future box set -ideally one whole CD of rare early songs & demos ....we can all keep hoping" I could not agree more Peter and thanks for the info its good to hear something I did not know about the Carpenters prehistory!
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Post by Federico Cruz on Sept 11, 2004 8:43:16 GMT -5
I read it too, and I think it will benefit the Carpenters if some "critic" talk bad about any Carpenters song: the listener will confirm the opposite.
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Post by JIM on Sept 11, 2004 9:22:00 GMT -5
Hey Dave. I went to space box and its sad that to this day there are people who just can't resist the opportunity to attack the Carpenters. These people need to get a life or just simply stop pressing the play button on there CD players! Are these people forced to buy Carpenters CD's? I agree with Federico. This type of sh** produces the opposite effect that critics desire. JIM
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