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Post by JIM on Sept 11, 2004 9:49:18 GMT -5
HI Enigma! I have been searchng the web from RCA archives to bootleg producers. I posted the question which produced the post claiming there were two RCA albums that were not released. I found that very hard to believe but I found a web site, which I will have to relocate, that confirmed that RCA cut two albums. Even if these songs are not released, I would love to know the titles of the songs they recorded. It would be cool if there is a Mr. Magic or Invitation out there in RC's or RCA's vault. JIM
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Post by enigma on Sept 11, 2004 14:09:41 GMT -5
Funny you should mention that Jim I have posted a request at another Carpenters forum to anybody who knows of any song titles from the unreleased RCT records I do not expect a full song list but there are some Carpenter "experts" in there so we will see what they have to say. I posted it yesterday so I will wait a few days and see if I get any results.
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Post by Federico Cruz on Sept 11, 2004 16:24:39 GMT -5
Interesting topic ...Richard has many RCT tracks in his archive : RCA Studio Tracks -recorded Autumn 1966 -RCA passed on this combo and none of these tracks were released ! 1965 /1966 Tracks -similar to Caravan -recorded as demos & rehearsals ..... 1965 >1967 Live Tracks recorded at various small gigs , receptions , weddings etc by Trio Rather than a separate Trio tracks album release , I think Richard is more likely to include more Trio , Spectrum & early Karen Magic Lamp recordings on a future box set -ideally one whole CD of rare early songs & demos .... I have a bad presentiment: Richard will please us, but first he will release these Trio tracks by 2020 in Japan. Later, he will do an american release....
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Post by JIM on Sept 11, 2004 18:43:18 GMT -5
Wow Man!! 2020!! Dave will be 65 and I will be 56. According to a doctor in Pittsburgh I have been dead for 15 years. If this is heaven, it certainly is not what I expected. Maybe I was reincarnated as me only ditzyer. Richard has stated that there are many complex royalty issues involved that it makes releasing TV specials hard to release, that was evident from the release of ATGB. The U.S. version had less material from TV specials due Royalty issues. Come on you royalty hungup people this is not 1975 85 or 95! In Jan. it will be 2005! Who on earth is left to hagle over the sorted topic of coin. As far as RC and his privately owned material, well its his ball game but at this point in the game I would want to make my fans happy before they shut the lights down on the field. Sorry for that public display of an adult temper tantrum. JIM
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Post by Rick Henry on Sept 11, 2004 18:47:56 GMT -5
Wow Man!! 2020!! Dave will be 65 and I will be 56. JIM Count me in here, I'll be 60 in 2020.
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Post by karen69roland on Sept 11, 2004 19:17:00 GMT -5
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Post by karen69roland on Sept 11, 2004 20:39:12 GMT -5
Dave, your 49??
Same age as my *masculine idol*..., guitar hero Eddie Van Halen. [glow=red,2,300][/glow][shadow=red,left,300] [/shadow][shadow=red,left,300]Roland C.[/shadow][shadow=red,left,300] [/shadow]
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Post by JIM on Sept 11, 2004 20:47:28 GMT -5
Well Kids. Old JIMBo spent all day on the net looking for information on RCT. If you go to Memorable Music Hall Of Fame, there is a detailed history of the Carpenters which does state that two albums were cut at RCA but never released. Yesterday Once More has an article that states that there are only four known recordings by RCT that are in print. I also dicovered that staring at cathode rays all day can cause extreme drowsiness. Jim
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Post by karen69roland on Sept 11, 2004 21:00:11 GMT -5
Richard?? Tuesday, October 15, 1946..., 12:53 am[glow=red,2,300][/glow][shadow=red,left,300] [/shadow][shadow=red,left,300]Roland C.[/shadow][shadow=red,left,300] [/shadow]
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Post by JIM on Sept 11, 2004 21:00:36 GMT -5
Oct. 15th 1946.
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Post by JIM on Sept 11, 2004 21:07:32 GMT -5
No fair Roland. You beat me to it. I am impressed that you even know the time. Thats a new fact to store in my upgraded pentium 4 cranium. JIM
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Post by karen69roland on Sept 11, 2004 21:14:11 GMT -5
Good idea..., Funny Dave.
Have fun with your *Real Karen*.
Looks like we brought the basement party to the *trio's thread*..., or is it the *parents thread*??
I guess some of our friends will pick up from now later tonight...[glow=red,2,300][/glow][shadow=red,left,300] [/shadow][shadow=red,left,300]Roland C.[/shadow][shadow=red,left,300] [/shadow]
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Post by karen69roland on Sept 11, 2004 21:16:47 GMT -5
Yeah Jim..., at 10:00 pm..., it's funny. [glow=red,2,300][/glow][shadow=red,left,300] [/shadow][shadow=red,left,300]Roland C.[/shadow][shadow=red,left,300] [/shadow]
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Post by Rick Henry on Sept 11, 2004 21:34:39 GMT -5
Well Kids. Old JIMBo spent all day on the net looking for information on RCT. If you go to Memorable Music Hall Of Fame, there is a detailed history of the Carpenters which does state that two albums were cut at RCA but never released. Yesterday Once More has an article that states that there are only four known recordings by RCT that are in print. I also dicovered that staring at cathode rays all day can cause extreme drowsiness. Jim Hi Jim, thanks for researching this. I'll check this out. I remember seeing a track list of the songs RCT recorded, but I can't remember where. I guess it's my turn to do some detective work. Dave we will definitely have to do a Saturday Night Basement Party for Richard's birthday. Though, his b-day falls on a Friday this year - so it'll have to be a FNBP.
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Post by JIM on Sept 12, 2004 9:22:08 GMT -5
Hey Rick. There is one more item of interest I ran across in my search, which of course I will have to relocate. There is a song called walkin wich appears under jazz insturmentals with Richard Carenter as the performer. Also I have a question for you. There is a track titled I FELL IN LOVE AGAIN. I know this was a thread about RCT no vocal but do you know if that was an RCT track or a spectrum. The song is so different. I really enjoy it. I love the tenor sax that is featured through out the song, you can imagine whyLOL and they sound like they were having so much fun just jammin along. This is way off topic but Robert the genius has just finished adding his sax talent on album in NYC I am not sure about the title or release date but I will post it if you are interested. I am so proud him. I would give anything to have his talent. I am hoping that when the song is done live he will let me tag along and play on some of the horn lines. JIM
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Post by JIM on Sept 12, 2004 9:26:37 GMT -5
Oh I forgot to mention I FELL IN LOVE AGAIN is on MORE OFFERINGS.
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Post by Rick Henry on Sept 12, 2004 9:58:23 GMT -5
Hi Jim, "I Fell In Love With You" I believe is recorded by Spectrum, if it were the trio it would only include keyboards, drums and tuba (or bass). This song has more musicians in it.
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Post by Peteruk on Sept 14, 2004 12:29:35 GMT -5
Hi All, I Fell In Love ....is Carpenters ....the version is from classic Carpenters Radio special recorded in 1970 for USA Navy ..... Karen and I believe Doug Strawn share vocals -this is a great jazz / jam song ....shows early live performances in a radical light .... I did read claims that Carpenter Trio recorded 2 RCA albums ....but Richard in interviews & liner notes sticks to 11 studio tracks being completed & rejected..... Another mystery ..... Peter
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