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Post by ps11932 on Apr 3, 2007 15:21:46 GMT -5
Thanks, Rick for the note. I will make necessary corrections next time. Anyone who spots an error- please do let me know. And Sunnybunny, your 3 new hears will be added also. I am really impressed with your radio connection- "Sing" is my very favorite Carpenters song, and "Sweet Sweet Smile", I think shows the station has quite a commitment to the group to play a song not normally associated with their "greats." (But in reality most all of them were and are great!)
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Post by Rick Henry on Apr 4, 2007 1:33:09 GMT -5
Yes, all (or anyway most) of their music was great. Some of their very best songs weren't released as singles (and in many cases are better than the majority of their singles) such as "Road Ode", "This Masquerade", "Desperado", "One More Time" and "Two Sides" - all of which contain that extreme "chill factor".
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Post by ps11932 on Apr 9, 2007 16:16:02 GMT -5
Here is the updated as of 1400 P.T., 9 April 2007. Recent corections and hears are included, with new hears in ( ) and included in each song total.
radio & public places- We've Only Just Begun-6, Close To You- 4, For All We Know-4, I Won't Last a Day Without You-4, Top Of The World-2, Please Mr. Postman-2, Rainy Days & Mondays-2 (1), Only Yesterday-2 (1), It's Going To Take Some Time-1, Superstar-1, Solitaire-1, Goodbye To Love-1 (1), Sing-1 (1), Sweet Sweet Smile-1 (1)
TV & movie- Superstar-3 1 each for: We've Only Just Begun, Close To You, For All we Know, Top Of The World, Rainy Days & Mondays, Only Yesterday, My Body Keeps Changing My Mind, Touch Me When We're Dancing, Yesterday Once More, Looking For Love, Dancing In The Street, All I Can Do, Don't Be Afraid, Ticket To Ride, Bless The Beasts & The Children, Hurting Each Other, Goodbye To Love, Strike Up The Band, Dizzy Fingers, This Masquerade, Merry Christmas Darling
Sunnybunny mentioned hearing someone else singing "I Need To Be In Love." As refreshing as it may be to hear other groups singing Carpenter songs, I make a motion that the log include only songs actually being sung by The Carpenters.
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Post by wisejester7 on Apr 9, 2007 18:11:56 GMT -5
Sunnybunny mentioned hearing someone else singing "I Need To Be In Love." As refreshing as it may be to hear other groups singing Carpenter songs, I make a motion that the log include only songs actually being sung by The Carpenters. Agreed.
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Post by Rick Henry on Apr 9, 2007 21:56:20 GMT -5
Sunnybunny mentioned hearing someone else singing "I Need To Be In Love." As refreshing as it may be to hear other groups singing Carpenter songs, I make a motion that the log include only songs actually being sung by The Carpenters. I agree with that also. The Carpenters log should be "hears" of actual Carpenters songs only - sung by the Carpenters and/or Karen - if in case any of her solo songs are on the radio - which they do show up from time to time.
I have seven days worth of Carpenters hears to add to the log. I heard Carpenters three times on the radio - but it was only one song...
Give "We've Only Just Begun" another three listens...
This gives WOJB a good edge over the others - but does that surprise any of us? The song is their signature after all.
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Post by sunnybunny on Apr 9, 2007 22:11:32 GMT -5
I heard Only Yesterday either yesterday or Saturday and I heard "It's Going To Take Some Time" yesterday.
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Post by GoodOldDreams on Apr 12, 2007 11:47:36 GMT -5
4 hears (Paddy, karl, Rick, and myself thusfar) of the TV/internet broadcast of the UK Carpenters documentary "The Carpenters' Story: Only Yesterday"
Do You Know the Way to San Jose Iced Tea Dancing in the Street You'll Love Me All I Can Do Don't be Afraid Ticket to Ride Close to You We've Only Just Begun For All We Know Rainy Days and Mondays Superstar Only Yesterday Goodbye to Love Top of the World Piano Picker Strike Up the Band Please Mr. Postman There's A Kind of Hush Love is Surrender Fun, Fun, Fun This Masquerade My Funny Valentine My Body Keeps Changing My Mind Those Good Old Dreams Touch Me When We're Dancing A Song for You Yesterday Once More
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Post by YesterdayOnceMore on Apr 12, 2007 13:43:20 GMT -5
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Post by GoodOldDreams on Apr 12, 2007 16:10:19 GMT -5
Another TV/internet broadcast I watched earlier this month was the Japanese documentary on the Carpenters called "The Sayonara" which includes:
Fun, Fun, Fun Da Doo Ron Ron Bless the Beasts and the Children Ticket to Ride Top of the World Close to You Superstar Rainy Days and Mondays Goodbye to Love We've Only Just Begun Help Mr. Guder Jambalaya Yesterday Once More For All We Know Ave Maria Only Yesterday Those Good Old Dreams Sailing on the Tide
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Post by ps11932 on Apr 14, 2007 16:16:37 GMT -5
April 14, 1554 Central time (new hears in ( ) and added into total for each song.)
radio, public, etc.: We've Only Just Begun- 9 (3) I Won't Last a Day Without You- 5 (1) Close To You-4 For All We Know-4 Only Yesterday- 3 (1) It's Going To Take Some Time-2 (1) Rainy Days & Mondays-2 Please Mr. Postman-2 Top Of The World-2 Superstar-1 Solitaire-1 Sing-1 Sweet Sweet Smile-1
TV, Video, etc: Superstar-8 (5) We've Only Just Begun-6 (5) Close To You-6 (5) Top Of The World-6 (5) Rainy Days & Mondays-6 (5) Only Yesterday-6 (5) Yesterday Once More-6 (5) Ticket To Ride-6 (5) Goodbye To Love-6 (5) My Body Keeps Changing My Mind-5 (4) Touch Me When We're Dancing-5 (4) Dancing In The Street-5 (4) All I Can Do-5 (4) Don't Be Afraid-5 (4) Strike Up The Band-5 (4) This Masquerade-5 (4) Fun, Fun, Fun-5 (5) Those Good Old Dreams-5 (5) A Song For You-4 (4) Do You Know The Way To San Jose-4 (4) Iced Tea-4 (4) You'll Love Me-4 (4) Piano Picker-4 (4) A Kind Of Hush-4 (4) Love Is Surrender-4 (4) My Funny Valentine-4 (4) Please Mr. Postman-4 (4) Bless The Beasts & The Children-2 (1) Looking For Love-1 Hurting each Other-1 Dizzy Fingers-1 Merry Christmas Darling-1 Ave Maria-1 (1) Da Doo Ron Ron-1 (1) Help-1 (1) Mr. Guder-1 (1) Jambalaya-1 (1) Sailing On The Tide-1 (1)
Thanks for all the reports.
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Post by YesterdayOnceMore on Apr 14, 2007 20:13:50 GMT -5
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Post by sunnybunny on Apr 14, 2007 20:38:19 GMT -5
I heard Top of the World on the radio today.Sometime ago I heard Yesterday Once More and For All We Know on the radio.
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Post by GoodOldDreams on Apr 15, 2007 0:46:14 GMT -5
Thanks for the update, O.E.!
The log of Carpenters "hears" from various broadcast media is already reaching beyond my expectations in many ways. It is interesting to note that "Superstar" seems to have been widely used by documentary and film makers past and present as an ode to Karen herself. The signature tune "We've Only Just Begun" has outranked the others overall, much more so than even their definitive version of "Close to You." While some of my personal favorites are not represented, the list does show a good range of the genres of songs they performed in their repertory. Of course, we are expecting a major December turnabout...
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Post by Rick Henry on Apr 15, 2007 10:22:36 GMT -5
Here's another twist to our Carpenters log.
Should we counts hears/views of music and/or videos that we click on to and watch or listen on sites such as YouTube or MySpace.
Myself I don't think these views or hears should count as that is more akin to playing an album or DVD on your own. If we include these than anybody can go to YouTube and click on the same thing 20 times and then report it.
I feel only true broadcasts should count.
What do others think?
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Post by GoodOldDreams on Apr 15, 2007 13:09:07 GMT -5
Rick, that is an interesting point that I have already put into much consideration. Specifically, the made-for-TV broadcasts such as the British "Story of the Carpenters: Only Yesterday" and the Japanese "The Sayonara" are shows in which the access to them are facilitated by current internet technology so that interested viewers from other countries who are not be within the TV broadcast signal range can still see them. I understand your concern that if a forum member reports multiple viewings of such media on a on-demand basis, it might skew the tallies for a particular show or song that the forum member is partial to. By the same token, have we considered the possibility that when a forum member calls in to request a radio station to play a particular Carpenters song, would that be akin to playing music on demand and should therefore not be counted? Fortunately, there has not been any evidence of either in practice. In fact, for myself, I have watched "Story of the Carpenters: Only Yesterday" over three times now, but reported it only once in the spirit that if the show were broadcasted on my local TV station in the U.S. as it did in the UK recently, I would have watched it anyway for that one time that it was broadcasted. To count radio songs (which have a average length of three to fours minutes) but not a more in-depth TV documentary (which average an hour long) is to ignore the significant power and impact of total immersion as well as the quick sound bite. This log has the great potential of revealing the different avenues as well as the frequencies of how the Carpenters are represented in contemporary broadcast media, which may be vastly different from the time when we were growing up. As a current reality, YouTube (with the appropriate tag line "Broadcast Yourself") and other internet sources are the primary ways many people find out about the Carpenters, more so than the dwindling influence of the traditional media of radio and newspaper. In fact, most-viewed and top-rated videos on YouTube have become frequent topics of interest and discussion in other forms of media. I think we have a great group of people here and can trust forum members implicitly to be on the "honor system" to not rig the tallies toward their personal favorites. We already have a bifurcated system in place now for the tallies to accommodate different interpretations of the log already, and it seems to work well. What do others think?
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Post by wisejester7 on Apr 15, 2007 14:06:02 GMT -5
Rick, that is an interesting point that I have already put into much consideration. Specifically, the made-for-TV broadcasts such as the British "Story of the Carpenters: Only Yesterday" and the Japanese "The Sayonara" are shows in which the access to them are facilitated by current internet technology so that interested viewers from other countries who are not be within the TV broadcast signal range can still see them. I understand your concern that if a forum member reports multiple viewings of such media on a on-demand basis, it might skew the tallies for a particular show or song that the forum member is partial to. By the same token, have we considered the possibility that when a forum member calls in to request a radio station to play a particular Carpenters song, would that be akin to playing music on demand and should therefore not be counted? Fortunately, there has not been any evidence of either in practice. In fact, for myself, I have watched "Story of the Carpenters: Only Yesterday" over three times now, but reported it only once in the spirit that if the show were broadcasted on my local TV station in the U.S. as it did in the UK recently, I would have watched it anyway for that one time that it was broadcasted. To count radio songs (which have a average length of three to fours minutes) but not a more in-depth TV documentary (which average an hour long) is to ignore the significant power and impact of total immersion as well as the quick sound bite. This log has the great potential of revealing the different avenues as well as the frequencies of how the Carpenters are represented in contemporary broadcast media, which may be vastly different from the time when we were growing up. As a current reality, YouTube (with the appropriate tag line "Broadcast Yourself") and other internet sources are the primary ways many people find out about the Carpenters, more so than the dwindling influence of the traditional media of radio and newspaper. In fact, most-viewed and top-rated videos on YouTube have become frequent topics of interest and discussion in other forms of media. I think we have a great group of people here and can trust forum members implicitly to be on the "honor system" to not rig the tallies toward their personal favorites. We already have a bifurcated system in place now for the tallies to accommodate different interpretations of the log already, and it seems to work well. What do others think? I understand Rick's concern for "true" broadcasts, but Dreams has made some valid points. If the show were televised here in the USA I would have watched it. As it stands, I am only able to view the show via the provided link (Thank you very much for that!). If people only count the show as one view only, then I see no harm in including it in our official TV / other broadcast count.
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Post by Rick Henry on Apr 15, 2007 15:13:13 GMT -5
Good points brought up by everyone on this topic.
I agree with Wisejester's suggestion of one count for programs that we watch on YouTube - as long as the program in question was actually broadcast on the air during or around the time period that you’ve watched it.
As for song requests made to a radio. If the DJ plays your request than it is not you alone listening to the song - but also all the others who happen to be tuned into the radio station - this indeed is without a doubt a public broadcast.
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Post by GoodOldDreams on Apr 16, 2007 11:34:31 GMT -5
Yay! Chart one more hear for Carps1000 (Ken) for his belated report yesterday of having viewed the UK Carpenters documentary "The Carpenters' Story: Only Yesterday"
Do You Know the Way to San Jose Iced Tea Dancing in the Street You'll Love Me All I Can Do Don't be Afraid Ticket to Ride Close to You We've Only Just Begun For All We Know Rainy Days and Mondays Superstar Only Yesterday Goodbye to Love Top of the World Piano Picker Strike Up the Band Please Mr. Postman There's A Kind of Hush Love is Surrender Fun, Fun, Fun This Masquerade My Funny Valentine My Body Keeps Changing My Mind Those Good Old Dreams Touch Me When We're Dancing A Song for You Yesterday Once More
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