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Post by ps11932 on Mar 16, 2007 17:08:09 GMT -5
You are right, Smoothie, about awareness and knowledge of anorexia was enhanced by the unfortunate fact that someone as noteworthy as Karen Carpenter suffered from it. With all the inspiration she gave to so many, even her turmoil in this area has helped the humanity. Though much more help is available today, many are still in a fight for life.
About two years ago our local newspaper, on the anniversary of Karen's death, chose to publish a picture of her close to her physical worst- many of us could have done without the photo, but I suppose it gave attention and publicity to spotlight the disease. And about 2 years prior to that- maybe in about 2003(?), when one of the Olson twins had an eating disorder, the paper ran an article including noted people who had struggled, and Karen was excluded from the list- and I was a bit annoyed about her not being mentioned. So I guess I have conflicted thoughts on the subject.
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Post by smoothie2 on Mar 16, 2007 23:00:49 GMT -5
 You are right, Smoothie, about awareness and knowledge of anorexia was enhanced by the unfortunate fact that someone as noteworthy as Karen Carpenter suffered from it. With all the inspiration she gave to so many, even her turmoil in this area has helped the humanity. Though much more help is available today, many are still in a fight for life. About two years ago our local newspaper, on the anniversary of Karen's death, chose to publish a picture of her close to her physical worst- many of us could have done without the photo, but I suppose it gave attention and publicity to spotlight the disease. And about 2 years prior to that- maybe in about 2003(?), when one of the Olson twins had an eating disorder, the paper ran an article including noted people who had struggled, and Karen was excluded from the list- and I was a bit annoyed about her not being mentioned. So I guess I have conflicted thoughts on the subject.  Really...well,
I see what you mean. I do know one of the Olson girls has been
having an eating disorder or did, anyway, the media is really
hooked of course on bad news...but still ...that's how it goes..
I don't like those horrid pics either of anyone in that shape,
anyway, .....gee whiz
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Post by smoothie2 on Mar 20, 2007 12:21:54 GMT -5
 I was pleasantly surprised late last night as I was watching one of those old Andy Griffith shows (one that was in color) and I don't know who the lady was that was supposed to be one of Andy's old girlfriends, but
she and Andy with his guitar, sang an upbeat version of
"YOU'RE JUST IN LOVE" ....
This is an old song that Karen sang w/ John Davidson
on one of the C's television specials I believe. But it also is one
that on the album "As Time Goes By", Richard sings or has
put his voice in there instead of Davidson's.
"You're J. in Love" happens to be my favorite song on that album of the old songs. I love it.
you just never know when a nice surprise comes up like that...
I don't recall hearing this song until I heard it
on "As Time G. By".
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Post by wisejester7 on Mar 20, 2007 14:36:29 GMT -5
I know Perry Como has You're Just In Love on at least one album. The Carpenters and Perry Como did work together on a special ... maybe the Carps sifted through his old stuff for 'treasures'. |
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Post by YesterdayOnceMore on Mar 20, 2007 15:04:08 GMT -5
Even though I've listened to everything from the standards up to today's music, I'm with ya, Kattt - I'd never heard "You're Just In Love" before I heard the duet that is on the "As Time Goes By" CD. Didn't even remember hearing the version with John Davidson, though I'm sure I watched that special back in the day - but just don't really "remember" that song. I have that special, now on VHS, and of course, have heard it both with Richard and with John. (He, too, used to have a show in Branson - and when we saw him, he did one of the Carpenters tunes in his show...can't recall which one, but it was obvious that he LIKED Carpenters music, having put one of their tunes in his Branson show). But I think this is a great little number. I've worked with several female "partners" doing duets, etc., in clubs, and this would have been a realy GREAT duet to have done....ah, if only I'd known.  Thanks for letting us know about this Andy Griffith show....sometimes we have Nick at Night on in the background, and Andy comes on - so....I'll have to watch for this episode. Tim  center]  [/center] |
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Post by ps11932 on Mar 20, 2007 15:30:59 GMT -5
"You're Just In Love" was written by the great Irving Berlin and is from the 1950 musical "Call Me Madam." And you all are right, The Carpenters version is the best I ever heard. So many genres were covered, including spectacular renditions of Broadway tunes.
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Post by smoothie2 on Mar 20, 2007 23:14:45 GMT -5
s I know Perry Como has You're Just In Love on at least one album. The Carpenters and Perry Como did work together on a special ... maybe the Carps sifted through his old stuff for 'treasures'. :Doh yes,...I always liked Como also and recall seeing some of his tv specials. Thanks for letting me know about that wisejester...I figure you really are right about Richard  and Karen sss sifting through those specials and etc. to find just the right ingredients for that album. I know Como sounds great at everything I ever heard...I always especially liked his ... "Yes, I know how lonely life can be, the shadows follow me, and the nights won't set me free..." (also part of the medley which Karen sings on that As Time G. By".) |
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Post by smoothie2 on Mar 20, 2007 23:35:33 GMT -5
;D Even though I've listened to everything from the standards up to today's music, I'm with ya, Kattt - I'd never heard "You're Just In Love" before I heard the duet that is on the "As Time Goes By" CD. Didn't even remember hearing the version with John Davidson, though I'm sure I watched that special back in the day - but just don't really "remember" that song. I have that special, now on VHS, and of course, have heard it both with Richard and with John. (He, too, used to have a show in Branson - and when we saw him, he did one of the Carpenters tunes in his show...can't recall which one, but it was obvious that he LIKED Carpenters music, having put one of their tunes in his Branson show). But I think this is a great little number. I've worked with several female "partners" doing duets, etc., in clubs, and this would have been a realy GREAT duet to have done....ah, if only I'd known. Thanks for letting us know about this Andy Griffith show....sometimes we have Nick at Night on in the background, and Andy comes on - so....I'll have to watch for this episode. Tim center] [/center][/quote] ;D Tim, I haven't heard you sing, but from what I gather, you're pretty good at it,
and anyone would be honored to sing with you.
My folks went to Branson back in the 80's not sure what show they went to ...it was one of the best trips they went on
according to mom.
We have a VHS tape Christmas in Branson which features Davidson and many others.
What a fun place it must be!
Nick at Nite has the Griffith shows I'm sure, but I catch him at
midnite sometimes on TV Land.
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Post by wisejester7 on Mar 21, 2007 7:03:56 GMT -5
s I know Perry Como has You're Just In Love on at least one album. The Carpenters and Perry Como did work together on a special ... maybe the Carps sifted through his old stuff for 'treasures'. :Doh yes,...I always liked Como also and recall seeing some of his tv specials. Thanks for letting me know about that wisejester...I figure you really are right about Richard and Karen sss sifting through those specials and etc. to find just the right ingredients for that album. I know Como sounds great at everything I ever heard...I always especially liked his ... "Yes, I know how lonely life can be, the shadows follow me, and the nights won't set me free..." (also part of the medley which Karen sings on that As Time G. By".) I wish Karen got to sing more of "And I Love You So' ... "And Yes, I know how lonely life can be. The shadows follow me and the night won't set me free..." I was totally captivated. But, alas, Perry finished the line. Speaking of Perry Como, I read somewhere that he didn't like to do duets with people, but made an exception to sing with Karen. Does anyone know if this is true? |
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Post by smoothie2 on Mar 21, 2007 12:41:40 GMT -5
I agree WJ...wish Karen had sung the full version of "And I Love you so" and many others. I don't know Como's likes or dislikes about duets. But I bet
that if he didn't , as a general rule, then he would have made an exception for Karen. My guess on that.
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Post by GoodOldDreams on Mar 21, 2007 14:32:24 GMT -5
I agree WJ...wish Karen had sung the full version of "And I Love you so" and many others. I don't know Como's likes or dislikes about duets. But I bet that if he didn't , as a general rule, then he would have made an exception for Karen. My guess on that. I heard that vocalists of earlier generations were more used to performing "live" while later generations are more comfortable working with perfected prerecorded tracks, lip-synching as in music videos. (The difference in working styles was somewhat evident in Karen's duet with Ella Fitgerald on "This Masquerade" on the TV special "Music, Music, Music.") Perhaps this was also a consideration for Perry Como, who had a relatively soft voice to start with. Being lauded by Richard as one of the few singers whose voice is distinctive and immediately recognizable by just one note, Perry Como was probably happy to oblige. BTW, "And I Love You So" was written by Don McLean (of "Vincent" and "American Pie"), and Perry Como's rendition of it is still the best I have ever heard. |
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Post by YesterdayOnceMore on Mar 21, 2007 14:52:23 GMT -5
BTW, "And I Love You So" was written by Don McLean (of "Vincent" and "American Pie"), and Perry Como's rendition of it is still the best I have ever heard.  Dreams, though this is a bit off topic, I've heard this story for some years, and I'm curious to know if you or anyone on the forum knows whether it's actually true, or not - speaking of Don McLean.....I have read, or have been told that Don is the individual Roberta Flack sings about who was "strumming my pain with his fingers - singing my life with his words - killing me softly with his song." Does anyone know if Don is really the individual Roberta sings about? Thanks, Tim |
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Post by smoothie2 on Mar 21, 2007 15:48:23 GMT -5
I agree WJ...wish Karen had sung the full version of "And I Love you so" and many others. I don't know Como's likes or dislikes about duets. But I bet that if he didn't , as a general rule, then he would have made an exception for Karen. My guess on that. I heard that vocalists of earlier generations were more used to performing "live" while later generations are more comfortable working with perfected prerecorded tracks, lip-synching as in music videos. (The difference in working styles was somewhat evident in Karen's duet with Ella Fitgerald on "This Masquerade" on the TV special "Music, Music, Music.") Perhaps this was also a consideration for Perry Como, who had a relatively soft voice to start with. Being lauded by Richard as one of the few singers whose voice is distinctive and immediately recognizable by just one note, Perry Como was probably happy to oblige. BTW, "And I Love You So" was written by Don McLean (of "Vincent" and "American Pie"), and Perry Como's rendition of it is still the best I have ever heard. :)thanks Dreams for the info...interesting... /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// INTERESTING QUESTION TIM ABOUT Don McClean and R. Flack. ///Wow...Karen would have sounded
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Post by GoodOldDreams on Mar 21, 2007 17:21:45 GMT -5
BTW, "And I Love You So" was written by Don McLean (of "Vincent" and "American Pie"), and Perry Como's rendition of it is still the best I have ever heard. Dreams, though this is a bit off topic, I've heard this story for some years, and I'm curious to know if you or anyone on the forum knows whether it's actually true, or not - speaking of Don McLean.....I have read, or have been told that Don is the individual Roberta Flack sings about who was "strumming my pain with his fingers - singing my life with his words - killing me softly with his song." Does anyone know if Don is really the individual Roberta sings about? Thanks, Tim "Killing Me Softly with His Song" was composed by Charles Fox and Norman Gimbel in 1971. The song was inspired by a poem by Lori Lieberman, "Killing Me Softly with His Blues", which she wrote after seeing a then-unknown Don McLean perform the song "Empty Chairs" live. Of course, Roberta Flack made "Killing Me Softly with His Song" a major hit in 1973, reaching number one on the Billboard Hot 100 for 4 weeks. |
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Post by YesterdayOnceMore on Mar 21, 2007 18:20:28 GMT -5
Dreams, though this is a bit off topic, I've heard this story for some years, and I'm curious to know if you or anyone on the forum knows whether it's actually true, or not - speaking of Don McLean.....I have read, or have been told that Don is the individual Roberta Flack sings about who was "strumming my pain with his fingers - singing my life with his words - killing me softly with his song." Does anyone know if Don is really the individual Roberta sings about? Thanks, Tim "Killing Me Softly with His Song" was composed by Charles Fox and Norman Gimbel in 1971. The song was inspired by a poem by Lori Lieberman, "Killing Me Softly with His Blues", which she wrote after seeing a then-unknown Don McLean perform the song "Empty Chairs" live. Of course, Roberta Flack made "Killing Me Softly with His Song" a major hit in 1973, reaching number one on the Billboard Hot 100 for 4 weeks.  Ah HAH! "...which she wrote after seeing a then-unknown Don McLean perform the song..." Thanks, kind sir. Not having this answer was a mind teaser for some time. Now, I can relax about this issue. Appreciate your help and information, Dreams. Tim
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Post by smoothie2 on Mar 24, 2007 23:07:49 GMT -5
 OK... some of you out there probably have already classified me as perhaps "an old fogey (whatever that is) by now because it seems I'm always commenting on old shows or things in the past...seemingly not living in the present... ......................oK.... THIS IS true to a certain extent.... But ...As far as today's "always something there to remind me"  ....Once again... Sometimes, we catch a re-run of the old Lawrence Welk show....after watching a movie tonight we caught the last few minutes of Welk show.. Oh...a bit off on the timing, this beautiful lady was singing the last few lines of "For ALL We KNOW" this particular show was probably done about 1970 and the lady was once Welk's daughter-in-law Tanya... (by the way, Tim, she's Italian)s Of course she did a great job, but nothing like Karen.. At the end of the show....present day Tanya talked a few minutes w/ another lady who used to be on Welk's show.. !!!!!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tanya got her start also at Disney Land also close to where Karen and Richard performed there... She clearly also loves the C's...and mentioned she would sometime see Karen across the way and they would wave to each other now and then. But there were many who got their start with Disney, and I guess she didn't get to know Karen. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  I THINK it's AMAZING that here and there Karen and Richard still prop up ! They surely still are admired so very much in today's world! Of course my ears are especially sensitive and my thoughts as well to "all things Carpenters."
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Post by wisejester7 on Mar 24, 2007 23:25:29 GMT -5
OK... some of you out there probably have already classified me as perhaps "an old fogey (whatever that is) by now because it seems I'm always commenting on old shows or things in the past...seemingly not living in the present... ......................oK.... THIS IS true to a certain extent.... But ...As far as today's "always something there to remind me" ....Once again... Sometimes, we catch a re-run of the old Lawrence Welk show....after watching a movie tonight we caught the last few minutes of Welk show.. Oh...a bit off on the timing, this beautiful lady was singing the last few lines of "For ALL We KNOW" this particular show was probably done about 1970 and the lady was once Welk's daughter-in-law Tanya... (by the way, Tim, she's Italian)s Of course she did a great job, but nothing like Karen.. At the end of the show....present day Tanya talked a few minutes w/ another lady who used to be on Welk's show.. !!!!!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tanya got her start also at Disney Land also close to where Karen and Richard performed there... She clearly also loves the C's...and mentioned she would sometime see Karen across the way and they would wave to each other now and then. But there were many who got their start with Disney, and I guess she didn't get to know Karen. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I THINK it's AMAZING that here and there Karen and Richard still prop up ! They surely still are admired so very much in today's world! Of course my ears are especially sensitive and my thoughts as well to "all things Carpenters." Surely, you're not an old fogey, Katt. ( Lawrence Welk aside ;-) ) I know that John Bettis, Richard Carpenter and Doug Strawn all worked at Disneyland. What I'm not really sure is if Karen actually worked there, too, or did she just go sometimes to drop off or pick up Rich? |
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Post by Rick Henry on Mar 25, 2007 19:59:53 GMT -5
I don't think Karen worked at the famed Disneyland (which is only about eight miles away from me). You have to be at least 18 years old to work there - which for Karen was in 1968 - by that point in time both Karen and Richard were pretty much doing the music thing full-time. I don't think either of them had the time to hold down a real job. |
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