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Post by Carps1000 on Sept 30, 2005 4:04:24 GMT -5
The Cs in my view have never done a bad song but they have done songs that even I dont care much for and so here is my opinionated Top 10 No like very much songs.
1. Man Smart Woman Smarter 2. Back in My Life Again 3. Breakin up Is Hard to Do 4. Dont Cry 4 Me Argentina 5. Now Adays Clancy Cant Even Sing 6. Help 7. Ticket 2 Ride 69 version 8. Turn Away 9. Top Of The World 72 version I0. Benediction
Hope I havent upset any one. XX Ken
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Post by Rick Henry on Sept 30, 2005 10:06:15 GMT -5
Hi Ken, you haven't upset me - we're all entitled to our opinions. That's what this forum is here for to tactfully speak what you feel - it's called communication.
I don't have my top ten worst C's songs list - but I will come up with one. One thing for me is that I do not dislike any song which Karen sings on. Most on my list will probably be Richard lead vocals like "Druscilla Penny" and "Get Together" - but even those songs I still atleast like.
I have to say I don't agree that "Nowadays Clancy Can't Even Sing", "Don't Cry For Me Argentina", "Help" and "Top Of The World" - even the 1971 version belong on a Carpenters worst of list. "Don't Cry..." and "Nowadays..." actually are two songs which should be on a best of list.
will have my worst list real soon...
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Post by karen69roland on Sept 30, 2005 12:53:27 GMT -5
I agree with that 100%.
*Just a note... I've noticed that a lot of recent threads/polls are concerning fans opinions to some *not so good* songs..., ' nothing wrong with that..., it's just a remark. [glow=red,2,300][/glow][shadow=red,left,300] [/shadow][shadow=red,left,300]Roland Chayer[/shadow][shadow=red,left,300] [/shadow]
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Post by Federico Cruz on Sept 30, 2005 16:53:43 GMT -5
The Cs in my view have never done a bad song, but they have done songs that even I don't care much for and so here is my opinionated Top 10 No like very much songs. 1. Man Smart Woman Smarter 2. Back in My Life Again 3. Breakin up Is Hard to Do 4. Dont Cry 4 Me Argentina 5. Now Adays Clancy Can't Even Sing 6. Help 7. Ticket 2 Ride (69 version) 8. Turn Away 9. Top Of The World (72 version) I0. Benediction Ken, I wouldn't name the "Top Ten Worstest", but my "Ten Weakest Songs" are: 1. Man Smart, Women Smarter (a better version is a duet done with Suzanne Sommers for The First Carps TV Special) 2. Breaking Up Is Hard To Do (The beginning and the end of this song : omG!) 3. Don't Cry For Me, Argentina (not a bad song, but "On The Balcony Of Casa The Rosada" is a waste of space in the album. What a strange inclusion!) 4. Help (a weak track in the album, Richard should have done a ballad version) 5. Goofus 6. Get Together (I don't like the sound effect of this song) 7. Crescent Noon(Sorry... but Richard: I want you release the CSULB University choir version of this song!) 8. Because We Are In Love (not a bad song but: that introduction!) 9. Beechwood 4-5789 10. No, I don't find any weak song after their last studio album with Karen living. If I mention anyone, maybe Richard could not release anymore songs!
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Post by cam83 on Oct 3, 2005 9:24:45 GMT -5
The Weakest songs...
1-Goofus 2-Bwanna She No Home 3-Druscilla Penny 4-Saturday 5-Reason to Believe 6-Beechwood 4-5789 7-There's A Kind of Hush 8-I Kept On Loving You 9-Sometimes 10-Heather
These are my 10 weakest...or maybe I shouldn't say weakest...but my 10 LEAST fave songs...
Cam
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Post by Federico Cruz on Oct 3, 2005 13:27:08 GMT -5
Cam!!!! Don't you like "I Kept On Loving You"? Richard sang it very well, good orchestration, good arrangement and..... it's a Paul Williams-Roger Nichols composition!!!
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Post by cam83 on Oct 3, 2005 14:29:19 GMT -5
Well if Karen had sung it it would have been a GEM.
Cam
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Post by Rick Henry on Oct 3, 2005 20:02:41 GMT -5
The Weakest songs... 1-Goofus 2-Bwanna She No Home 3-Druscilla Penny 4-Saturday 5-Reason to Believe 6-Beechwood 4-5789 7-There's A Kind of Hush 8-I Kept On Loving You 9-Sometimes 10-Heather These are my 10 weakest...or maybe I shouldn't say weakest...but my 10 LEAST fave songs... Cam Hi Cam! Your list does seem sensible. But I have to disagree with two of your choices. "Sometimes" is a wonderfully beautiful and intimate song. Just Karen's voice and Richard's piano. I love this one totally.
Also "B'wana She No Home" you have to listen to this one with the headphones on. Listen to all the different instruments - how they come together so very well. This is one of the most creative arrangements Richard has ever done. And then Karen's voice on this one is out of sight. It's a whole different angle for Karen and she pulled it off quite well.
just my thoughts... and also just another post to keep this thread going. I think this thread has potential for interesting conversation.
Soon coming my top 10 "least favorite" songs. I say "least favorite" because I don't think any C's songs are weak. They're all fantastic.
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Post by enigma on Oct 3, 2005 20:54:32 GMT -5
OK here is my 10 worstest list. First I will make a little statement there will be selections here that alot of people don't agree with so be warned. Also my list has nothing to do with the arrangement, style or who sings lead on the song. I do listen to the Carpenters on my headphones so I am not missing anything when I listen to them they just don't rank among my favorites and are not listened to as often as others. These are in no particular order
1. Ticket To Ride - Nothing at all to do with Karens vocal I actually prefer the "flawed" 1969 version just never really fell in love with this one.
2. Mr Guder
3. Driscilla Penny
4. Intermission - not really a song but a skipper
5. Goofus
6. Breaking Up Is Hard To Do
7. Bwanna She No Home
8. On The Balcony... (not Don't Cry For Me Argentina I like that one)
9. Man Smart Woman Smarter
10. Because We Are In Love
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Post by cam83 on Oct 4, 2005 17:54:48 GMT -5
SOMETIMES is very Beautiful...but does nothing for me...the long piano parts I find are kinda boring...although well done...and it just drags...Karen's vocals are very lovely and very profound for such a young age...
My thoughts, Cam
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Post by Rick Henry on Oct 4, 2005 19:59:01 GMT -5
SOMETIMES is very Beautiful...but does nothing for me...the long piano parts I find are kinda boring...although well done...and it just drags...Karen's vocals are very lovely and very profound for such a young age... My thoughts, Cam I can see what you're saying Cam. I guess I was just surprised to see "Sometimes" on your list because I always thought it was one of your favorites.
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Post by Rob813 on Oct 4, 2005 20:30:12 GMT -5
It's hard to name any Carpenter song as a worst song because as a fanatic of their music, I hate it when people viciously knock their contribution to music.
Here's what I consider to be their weakest songs:
Druscilla Penny Saturday Bwana She No Home Goofus Back In My Life Again Prime Time Love Beachwood 4-5789 A Kind of Hush
See, I can't even think of 10. I think some of the music became monotonous after awhile. I believe Karen and Richard both felt this way. Karen's taking a break to do the solo album was a good way to jazz things up. Richard even considered disbanding Carpenters toward the end of the 1970s but Karen nixed the idea.
I think they needed a break from each other. The reteaming of the duo in 1980/81 on MIA showed promise for the future.
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Post by Rick Henry on Oct 9, 2005 2:12:13 GMT -5
Okay you guys I really gave it some thought. I even wrote down a few songs. But then I came to realize I just can't come up with a list of Carpenters worsy songs or even least favorites. Reason is I really do love them all. Even the songs like "Man Smart...", "Goofus" and "Beechwood" I love them all.
hmmm... maybe I'll give it more thought.
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Post by Carps1000 on Oct 9, 2005 11:29:01 GMT -5
Cam.!!!!! Theres a kind of Hush U NO LIKE MUCH.!!!! Its is one of their GREATEST tho the album version is a little luck lustre but the single.......WOW. My view only Cam no offence. Ken carps1000
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Post by cam83 on Oct 12, 2005 10:35:47 GMT -5
A Kind of Hush is a nice song, but not one of my faves....I guess I really adore songs Karen sung that have a profound or magestic quality...like A Place To Hideaway, Ave Maria, Solitaire, Look To Your Dreams, or Superstar...but I do like the LIVE versions of THERE'S A KIND OF HUSH...she does a great job of it...
Cam
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Post by beaner on Oct 12, 2005 14:31:48 GMT -5
Hi Cam,
Oh my gosh, I was surprised too, to see "Sometimes" on your list but we all have our choices.
I can understand someone getting bored with the piano part cause it does go on but when the words and Karen's voice finally kick in, it just goes straight to my heart.
This song means so much to me and how much of my friends and family I don't get to see and if they could just know how much I love them.
Sorry, just had to let you in on my end of it.
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Post by JIM on Oct 19, 2005 1:07:45 GMT -5
Ken! I love Clancy and Cam! Kind of Hush, shush! Enigma if intermission was not at the side one of Song For You people like me would have never heard Bless the Beasts. Sorry for the silly. I agree its not a song but I would bet money that no group has ever included a trip to the bathroom on any album. What crazy cats, I can just imagine the giggling they did as it was recorded. The only song I truly find the worstest is The Wedding Song! It makes me want to find Tom Burris and ask him how he could throw away our Karen. He must have a heart made of coal. I will always believe that he sent her on the final slide. Jim
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Post by Rob813 on Oct 21, 2005 19:32:27 GMT -5
Jim, I've never connected Tom Burris to The Wedding Song. I think the song stands on it's own and represents alot of growth for Karen as a woman.
It's true that Tom was cold-hearted in dumping Karen and it probably did do her in. However how do we know what went on in the marriage. Tom will never speak and Karen's gone, so it would be supposition on our parts. It couldn't have been easy to deal with her anorexia. Please understand, I'm not siding with Tom, but Karen had alot of problems long before the marriage.
Perhaps it's impossible for some people to hear The Wedding Song and not be turned off by what happened in real life. Too bad, because I still think it's a good song.
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