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Post by smoothie2 on Nov 2, 2004 1:02:13 GMT -5
???wow...really interesting stuff being discussed... I, like so many fans, really like that "perfect family" ideal of the Carps. I like those Walgreens ads about in the "perfectville" or the perfect world all these great things would be a certain way. A real heaven on earth ...everything you ever need would be taken care of and everyone would get along...even the jack-o-laterns should have scary faces but they can't help but smile... anyway, I think it's interesting and important for us to know the C's altogether surely had many problems...and with or without success in show biz...they would still face these problems...maybe not the same ones...but there they are. I don't like to hear negative things about R. and K. but sometimes...looking at those problems can help us understand them better. I hope Richard kicks the smoking habit if he still has it or if he did have it I hope it is behind him. The pressure that such hectic schedules on the road bring I can imagine are just overwhelming. I mostly enjoy the C's warts and all...I have to accept that Karen is gone and knowing she had such a tough time and if I had known her...back then I would not have understood the disease. I know more about it now, but there would have been little or nothing I could have done to stop her behavior... I wouldn't have turned her away as a friend. In any case, I thank them for the music.
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Post by YesterdayOnceMore on Nov 2, 2004 12:30:52 GMT -5
Dave, some excellent insight. Thanks VERY MUCH for your points here.
Where can I find the ET interview you transcribed -under what topic?
I'm listening to the Carpenters as I write. I listen to them every day. They're always with me, no matter where I am. There's a lot to be said for that.
I end my post this time with a quote from Karen's own yearning, lovely yet sad voice in "I Need To Be In Love" and that quote is.... "It took a while for me to learn that NOTHING comes for free....the price I paid is high enough for me....." Amen, sweet Karen. Amen. Tim Tim
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Post by YesterdayOnceMore on Nov 3, 2004 14:11:49 GMT -5
Dave, wow - that was great reading. Thanks for "bumping" it to a place where I could find it. I actually think I remember seeing that interview, and I, like you, was astounded at the things that were said. I mean - you're right - Richard must live with all his knowledge of everything that happened every single day of his life. I'm happy, too, that he found love, and is having what sounds like a good life raising his children. I'd like to sit and talk with him someday - just have a conversation - some of it would be hard, I'm sure, as I'm full of questions - some of them pleasant, some not so pleasant. Nevertheless, he's pretty reclusive, and if I had my guess, he's an angry man - about a lot of things - unfortunately, I think he sort of takes his anger over things in his life out on his fans.....that's too bad. Much more to say, but I'll save it for another time. Thanks for the great post.
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Post by YesterdayOnceMore on Nov 3, 2004 20:17:00 GMT -5
Cool - okay then, Dave, how does one post their own pic? I'll try it. But I do love this one of Karen.....nice one, huh?
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Post by Rob813 on Nov 3, 2004 20:26:48 GMT -5
Actually Tim it's a great pic of Karen - from the solo sessions of course. This was the time when Karen FINALLY thought she was pretty!
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Post by Rick Henry on Nov 3, 2004 21:43:39 GMT -5
Cool - okay then, Dave, how does one post their own pic? I'll try it. But I do love this one of Karen.....nice one, huh? Hi Tim, if you want to post your own picture as your avatar you can send the picture to me through email and I'll post it for you. ?*
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Post by YesterdayOnceMore on Nov 3, 2004 22:14:17 GMT -5
Rick, that's even better! YOu're wonderful, ya know - taking care of all of us. I've gotta say, I'm so glad that time has permitted me to "come back" to this forum. I stumbled upon it last January, and having a new job, and traveling a lot (all through the US and Europe so far) I just haven't had a lot of time until now to post, etc. Such a great group - as I told Dave - Kindred Spirits, if you will. I appreciate the thoughts of each of you. Thanks for sharing them. Rick, I'm looking for a photo that won't scare everyone away to post. When I locate one, I'll send it along. I do love this pic of Karen. Yes, I know it's one of those that she liked of herself, and it's quite understandable why. I've always found Karen attractive. I have some photos I took of Karen and Rich when I first met them and got their autographs that I'll be happy to scan and send along, too....and a couple from when they came to Springfield and I was too chicken (actually I was trying to respect their need for personal space) to get out of my car and go up to them and say anything....oh, how I regret that now. I'll send those, too. Thanks everyone. Have a great upcoming weekend. Tim
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Post by BethMosior on Nov 4, 2004 9:48:59 GMT -5
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Post by YesterdayOnceMore on Nov 4, 2004 13:25:22 GMT -5
Hi Beth - I sent the photos to Rick today - so you'll soon see them, I'm sure. I fought my way against 75,000 people at the State Fair in Sedalia Missouri, 1971 to get my autographs, a pic of which I also sent Rick. I was sure I'd died and gone to heaven, having gotten to see them, and Karen and Rich both shook my hand....wow.....it was a true dream come true. I also got Dan Woodham's and Bobby Goldsboro's signatures - Bobby was fronting for K and R at the time. The forum is wonderful, and I enjoy your posts too, Beth. Take care. Tim
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