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Post by Rob813 on Oct 3, 2004 21:15:23 GMT -5
I just posted a comment about the enhanced quality of the sound on the Carpenter's Gold CD. There were some lyrics on "Mr. Guder" which I have always had trouble discerning. With the new CD, I can hear every word perfectly. On the song "Maybe It's You", Karen sings we walk along the waves of velveteen. Just before that she sings of the ocean's haze. Is that correct? It's always confused me.
This is nothing new. Many fans of other artists have many more words that they cannot make out. The Carpenters were always clear in their lyrics. There have been just a few that have stumped me.
Does anybody have any trouble with any Carpenter lyrics that we can help discern?
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Post by smoothie2 on Oct 3, 2004 23:15:59 GMT -5
???hi Rob...I already wrote a good bit to you in reply...but things got hung up...so... anyway, yes, even though Karen has such a clear and wonderful voice...and the songs are superb...I too always sung along thinking as you did "the ocean's haze"...but I have looked up several song lyrics through the metrolyrics ( a link is found on carpsonline main page) and found out the words ...some words, I just couldn't understand or thought they were one thing and they weren't. There may be a chance that some words were recorded using different words here and there. Anyway, I never understood the words in Road Ode...it starts out.."I wonder if these feelings ever change...and then the words I couldn't get were "how long I'll lift this load'. Other songs I find interesting to look up the words because it makes more sense to know what they're all about..ha...imagine that... Anyway, I don't mean to discredit Karen or the songs At all...I'd never do that... I'm glad there's the technology now with cd's and digital stuff, so we are able to hear the words better. I have thought of old songs, by other singers and found the lyrics and got a kick out of having those words... I must admit that I am at that middle of the road stump as far as age goes, so the 'ole ears ain't what they used to be...ha... so try that metrolyrics or lyricfreaks...and you might find what you wanna know.
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Post by smoothie2 on Oct 3, 2004 23:21:04 GMT -5
???Rob, I re-read your opening post here and I realize that you probably familiar with the lyrics sites, and that you are telling us that with the new cd you now understand those words. anyway....
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Post by Rick Henry on Oct 4, 2004 0:10:55 GMT -5
Rob here are the lyrics to "Maybe It's You".
Maybe it’s you Maybe it’s me Maybe it’s just the constant rhythm of the sea Maybe it’s just that I’ve never been The kind who can pass a lucky penny by
Maybe it’s wise Maybe it’s not Maybe it’s you who brought the caring I’d forgot Isn’t it nice to talk about the special way That you smile whenever I’m around
Rising on the shore The ocean came Walks along the waves of velveteen His only thought Was love for me
Couldn’t we stay? Or must we go Couldn’t we stay? And watch the splashing rock we throw Only a fool would want to leave this paradise That I find whenever you’re around Only a fool
Isn’t it nice to talk about the special way That you smile whenever I’m around Rising on the shore The ocean came Walks along the waves of velveteen His only thought Was love for me
Couldn’t we stay? Or must you go Couldn’t we stay? And watch the splashing rocks we throw Only a fool would want to leave the paradise That I find whenever you’re around Only a fool Only a fool
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Post by Rob813 on Oct 4, 2004 22:17:34 GMT -5
Thanks for clearing that up Rick. It's almost anti-climatic to read the ocean came. I thought it was going to be a bit more poetic. I really love poetic lyrics like "Where Do I Go From Here". ie. - lying on a bed of leaves watching clouds through the trees.....but the ocean came does make sense. I think I like the ocean's haze better, although it doesn't quite make sense does it?
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Post by smoothie2 on Oct 4, 2004 23:20:46 GMT -5
???thanks Rick...I do love lyrics...and poems too...I love Maybe it's You...also because the harmonies and the music itself...go up and down and easily paints a nice picture in my mind of the ocean.
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Post by JIM on Oct 9, 2004 14:52:01 GMT -5
I know this is a thread about lyrics but in The Last One Singin The Blues in the beginning she is trying to get the bass player to slow down and she says "just a cinche slower****%%%% I just can't make out what she is saying after slower. JIM
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Post by Federico Cruz on Oct 9, 2004 16:10:42 GMT -5
I know this is a thread about lyrics but in The Last One Singin The Blues in the beginning she is trying to get the bass player to slow down and she says "just a cinche slower**** I just can't make out what she is saying after slower. JIM Liberty DeVitto is the drummer in that session, and Karen callss him "Lib".
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Post by JIM on Oct 9, 2004 19:22:25 GMT -5
Hey Federico! Thanks, that is some very cool info. Do you have any other info about the New York recording sessions? I have been trying to figure out how Phil put those super complex harmonies together. I know that sometimes you build around the bass and drum traks but these recordings are just so unique he must have thrown the book out and used some very inovative recording methods. I am guessing but to get such tight vocals they must have used a computer to quantitize each voice in the harmonies. I have written to Phil, to see if he would be willing to tell me what type of recording process he used but I guess its classified or he just does not have time to give me an online recording enginering course. JIM
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Post by Federico Cruz on Oct 9, 2004 22:11:08 GMT -5
That's nothing, Jim. I'm only taking information from old postings. BTW, I invite new members to read the oldest topics of this forum and make their opinion. You only have to click the numbers where it says: PAGES
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Post by OceanKing on Oct 10, 2004 11:59:17 GMT -5
I must respectfully disagree with y'all about the lyrics of "Maybe It's You." I've always heard it this way: Rising on the shore The ocean king Walks among the waves of velveteen His only thought: His love for me"Ocean king" makes more grammatical sense than "ocean came," as it provides a subject for the predicate that follows. Besides, if I'm wrong, then I have to change my screen-name!
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Post by Rick Henry on Oct 11, 2004 0:36:13 GMT -5
I must respectfully disagree with y'all about the lyrics of "Maybe It's You." I've always heard it this way: Rising on the shore The ocean king Walks among the waves of velveteen His only thought: His love for me"Ocean king" makes more grammatical sense than "ocean came," as it provides a subject for the predicate that follows. Besides, if I'm wrong, then I have to change my screen-name! Hi OceanKing, respectfully the lyrics are "the ocean came", I know this as I do own an official carpenters music book for the "close To you" album. I purchased the book from the fan club back in the 70's. Actually "ocean came" makes perfect grammatical sense. The line "rising on the shore, the ocean came", is the water rising to the shore up to the sand, the waves moving toward the shore - the ocean comes toward us. And the HE that she is talking about is the person she's addressing at the beginning of the song as she says "maybe it you, maybe it's me".
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Post by Carps1000 on Apr 17, 2005 5:52:19 GMT -5
I always thought it was "velvet years" not "velveteen".. Oh well cant b right all the time. Ken
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Post by beaner on Apr 17, 2005 7:22:24 GMT -5
I always thought it was "oceans neen" which makes absolutely no sense I know instead of "ocean came" which makes total sense, but that's all I ever heard and until today I still catch myself singing that.
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Post by Rick Henry on Apr 17, 2005 9:28:37 GMT -5
I always thought it was "oceans neen" which makes absolutely no sense I know instead of "ocean came" which makes total sense, but that's all I ever heard and until today I still catch myself singing that. Funny Beaner. Some of my misheard lyrics in the past are: From "(I'm Caught Between) Goodbye And I Love You". The part where Karen says; "falling both ways, nowhere to land". For the first three months I owned "Horizon" it was on 8-track - which did not include lyrics so that part I that Karen was saying "falling boys with nowhere to land". Even after I bought the album and read the lyrics I still heard it as "falling boys...". Another on was in the song "It's Going To Take Sometime" The part where Karen sings "but like the young trees in the wintertime, I'll learn how to bend". for about two years or so I thought she was saying "but like the young trees in the wintertime, Alan had a band". And that makes no sense at all. Funny how we hear things sometimes.
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Post by cam83 on Apr 17, 2005 14:16:28 GMT -5
Rick That is sooo funny! I can relate too. My first ever...(well actually my Mom's) 8 track...THE SINGLES 1969-1973....I remember singing along to a hairbrush(my imaginary microphone) to SUPERSTAR which I felt was a dramatic type song. For the second verse, I sang(since there were no lyrics)...LOW LINEN is such a sad affair...I have NO idea what low linen was...and I died laughing when I found out it was LONELINESS is such a sad affair....later on. My thoughts, Cameron
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Post by enigma on Apr 17, 2005 15:17:52 GMT -5
One common one that gets me laughing is from All You Get From Love Is A Love Song where the line "Because the best love song is writing with a broken heart" is a misheard as "Because the best love song is writing with a broken arm" Broken Arm? thats just too funny!
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Post by rmjoots on Apr 17, 2005 23:01:38 GMT -5
I have a couple that sound like something completely different from what the lyrics are. In Please Mr. Postman, Karen sounds like she sings "I've been standing here waiting Mr. Postman, so patiently for just a CAR, for just a letter...." In "I Need To Be In Love" instead of "I'm hanging on a hope", to me, it sounds like "I'm hanging on a hook, but I'm alright." And half the lyrics of "Sweet Sweet Smile" I can't make out. When I sing it, this is what I end up saying 'And I got a bee on the rella, and Aunt Geneva, and I'll always be there." which makes no sense, but its what I hear!!!
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