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Post by JIM on Sept 17, 2004 17:09:14 GMT -5
Hey Ocean King go to www.gemm.comthey still list 6 Scott Grimes CD's in stock at $15.99. You should grab one while you can, I have really fallen in love with this album. Richards backing arrangements are true to form. I hear something more interesting each time I listen to it. I can't believe there 49.99 at Amazon! What is up with that? Scott must be seeing some overdue residule checks in his mailbox. JIM
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Post by beaner on Sept 19, 2004 18:51:21 GMT -5
Well, I'm going to be a bit different here. When I purchased the Scott Grimes CD recently I played it almost all the way through but then I decided to take it in my car where I listen to the same CD over and over for a few days.
Now, I am completely hooked on this CD. I love the background vocals and a couple of the songs do remind me of Richard's album Time. I think at this age, Scott had a terrific voice and I truly think this is a great CD. The Sax in it just takes me away!!!!
As far as Richard using or encouraging Scott to use his more mature voice, I think it was a great start and I would love to hear him now. His voice must be much better if he has kept up with it. I think, like anything, it was the wrong place and time for Richard to turn this boy into a rising star. Perhaps if it was around the time of LeeAnn Rimes or even Billy Gilman, he would have done better cause I think it's done very well.
However, listening to it, I do wonder if Richard is a fan of Yanni because some of the music reminded me of his music too. What do you guys think?
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Post by Rob813 on Sept 19, 2004 20:12:38 GMT -5
I still haven't purchased the Scott Grimes CD. No matter who Richard has produced, he will always be compared with the work he did with Karen and it will never be good enough. Karen's talent was just too enormous to ever reach that level of perfection with anyone else. I still think Richards direction should go in the direction of writing music for film. The demands of cinema fit exactly with the talent that Richard can bring. His music is lush and magnificent. It evokes emotion in every note. Film would benefit immeasureably from his contribution. I really think I'm right about this.
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Post by JIM on Sept 20, 2004 3:46:31 GMT -5
Hey Roland! We both are driving around with a Scott Grimes CD in the car. I also think its a cool collection. Like you said there are a few songs that sound very similar to songs from TIME. Listen to Call On Me and let me know if you hear When Time Was All We Had. The Saxaphones sections are very impressive. JIM
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Post by beaner on Sept 20, 2004 5:37:07 GMT -5
Hey Jim,
You mentioned Roland as far as listening to the Scott Grimes CD in the car, etc. I don't see a post from Roland on this thread. Were you talking to me, Beaner?
You mentioned everything that I mentioned in my post. I have listened to Call on Me many times and yes, especially in the beginning it sounds very much like "When time was all we had".
Anyway, back to you Rob813, I think Richard would be great with music for a movie, etc. He can do so much magic yet.
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Post by JIM on Sept 20, 2004 6:00:57 GMT -5
HI Beaner. I hope I am not posting twice but yes I did think you were Roland. I automatically associate the avatar that you share with Roland with Roland. However I am still glad that we share the same inthusiasim for Scotts album. JIM
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Post by Rick Henry on Sept 20, 2004 10:11:57 GMT -5
Okay so after Beaner's and Jim's comments I decided to give the Scott Grimes album another listen and I come away with the same feeling. I love the music, it's extremely well produced, but I just can't get past Scott's voice. Yes, he does sing well, but it's too sweet sounding for a guy. It almost seems like they were trying to get a Karen sound out of a 17 year old male. It just doesn't work. This is just my own take on the album.
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Post by beaner on Sept 20, 2004 10:32:58 GMT -5
Hey Jim, I thought it might have been me. Anyway, my favorite song on that CD is "Show me the way to your heart".
What really would have been nice was to see Scott's future as a singer. Apparently, he went to acting instead. I really like the movie Mystery, Alaska which he stars in. If you like hockey, I highly recommend this movie, it's great!
I hear what you are saying Rick. I just think that Scott was singing along with his age. I wouldn't want him to start out to mature cause it would have only rushed his career too much. I see it happening with Lee Ann Rimes. They had her singing AND dressing like a very mature women and she wasn't even 16 yet. That part I really didn't like. I think Scott's album was done tastefully too.
Granted, when he did reach lower parts, he had a very mature voice (and sounded great too) which is why I would love to hear him now when he is about 30.
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Post by JIM on Sept 20, 2004 12:07:31 GMT -5
Hey Rick. I totally understand where your coming from. If it was produced by anyone other than Richard, I would not bother. I really focus on the arranging of the backing vocals which have always been the hallmark of RC's work. He just has such a unique way of making the backing vocals a focul point. JIM
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Post by beaner on Sept 20, 2004 13:02:13 GMT -5
I agree. If it weren't for knowing Richard was involved in this I wouldn't have given a thought to buying this CD. We all got to see a bit of a different side to Karen's singing with her solo songs and unreleased songs. This gives us another way to see the genious in Richard too. We always knew and hear so many remixes, etc. of their original music but to hear different styles of music that Richard had a part of is exciting too.
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Post by Rick Henry on Sept 20, 2004 21:10:24 GMT -5
Gee I really hadn't given it any thought, but I also have to say that if Richard wasn't involved in this I wouldn't purchased it.
Please don't misunderstand me, I think Scott is a well trained vocalist, but at the same point the vocal on this album is really a bit sweet and also somewhat mechanical. He lacks in the deep rooted soul which comes natural for singers like Karen Carpenter.
Though on the other hand I feel Richard Carpenter was completely successful in his work on this album. This musical arrangements are spectacular. The musicianship is of high standards, which us Carpenters fans are used to getting. and than there's the vocal arrangements. The arrangement of the background vocals is almost as inspiring as that on any Carpenters album. Even the arrangement on Scott's lead vocal is fantastic. I just think the vocal arrangements are more geared for a female vocalist not a male vocal. Nontheless the music is excellente.
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Post by Rob813 on Sept 21, 2004 1:14:46 GMT -5
Speaking of female singers, I'd love to see Richard team up with Norah Jones for at least one song. She has such a mature sound to her voice. I really like her first two albums, but I think she could really bring the energy level up a notch or two and be even more outstanding. The music has too much of a sleepy quality to it. When I listen to her songs, I think of how exciting Karen and Richard were on their beginning work and long for some of that with Norah Jones. Oh how I wish I could get them together!
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Post by beaner on Sept 21, 2004 5:31:30 GMT -5
Rob, have you suggested this on Richard's website? I think it would be a good idea.
When Richard answers the fan's questions, he is usually quite explicit and gives his time for us.
Any joint venture, with Richard's expertise, would be welcomed.
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Post by Rob813 on Sept 21, 2004 20:19:28 GMT -5
No, I haven't suggested it on the website. Perhaps it's something I should seriously consider. We need more top notch music in the world today. Maybe, just maybe, it's possible!?!!!!
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Post by JIM on Sept 28, 2004 23:23:10 GMT -5
Hey Rick. I was in the process of extracting the Scott Grimes CD from my car stereo today for a much needed rest when I noticed the CD has promotional copy in big letters on the front. I had never noticed this before and its deffinetly the first time I have owned a promotional CD. When a label releases a CD do they always make promotional copies and how many do they normally print? JIM
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Post by Rick Henry on Sept 29, 2004 8:30:23 GMT -5
Hey Rick. I was in the process of extracting the Scott Grimes CD from my car stereo today for a much needed rest when I noticed the CD has promotional copy in big letters on the front. I had never noticed this before and its deffinetly the first time I have owned a promotional CD. When a label releases a CD do they always make promotional copies and how many do they normally print? JIM I'mnot sure how many promo copies are genreally , but I would imagine the more popular the artist the more money the record label will put into pormotion, meaning more promo copies to promote.
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Post by YesterdayOnceMore on Jan 3, 2005 12:50:03 GMT -5
^^ Hi All I wanted to publicly thank Jim for the wonderful Christmas present he sent me - The Scott Grimes CD - it's super. Thanks, Jim. I've listened to it several times, now. It's very well constructed. I can tell it's very Richard Carpenter influenced. It's a gem, and I'm so pleased to add it to my collection. Jim, you're the best! ~Best Tim
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