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Post by Rob813 on Jul 31, 2004 22:03:51 GMT -5
When Karen died in 1983 it took me a number of years to be able to listen to their music again without severe emotional pain. As such, I did not purchase Richard's solo album "Time". I have never heard any of the songs on the album. I also know it only sold moderately well. Because of this, Richard did not release another solo effort until 1997. I would love to listen to the "Time" album. I know Rick has the album. My question is where can I find a copy of it? Has anybody else purchased it? And finally, what is your opinion of the album?
Rob
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Post by cam83 on Jul 31, 2004 22:37:13 GMT -5
It's an okay album. I don't mind his singing. Although I always love the 2 songs by female on this release...Dusty Springfield and Dionne Warwick. I also love TIME, the song. Gorgeous. Reminds me of the 1973 instrumental HEATHER.
Cam
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Post by BethMosior on Aug 1, 2004 0:25:39 GMT -5
I love the song When Time Was All We Had, really I enjoy all of his 1st solo album & the 2nd solo CD too  maybe if you could try rare record stores, or something along that line, you might find it, I think its worth listening too and it did take me along time to listen to it also, for when Richard sings up in the High range, like the back round vocals, I would hear alittle bit of Karen in his voice, for a long time i would sob when i heard that, but now I can listen and enjoy it  hope that helps some   |
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Post by Federico Cruz on Aug 1, 2004 8:45:42 GMT -5
I downloaded all the songs of "Time" from Audiogalaxy, but I really wish my "official" copy.
Universal Records: Please, re-release it!.
I liked it and found it interesting!.
Another items I downloaded from the old Audiogalaxy are:
The 9 unreleased songs from Karen Carpenter solo sessions.
The "live" songs from the radio program Your Navy Presents.
I would love to hear and see clean and official releases of this recordings.
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Post by Rob813 on Aug 3, 2004 21:16:33 GMT -5
Does anybody think the richardandkarencarpenter.com website would know where I can get a copy of "Time"?
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Post by JIM on Aug 4, 2004 0:49:58 GMT -5
Say Yeah the first track on the
album really Grabs your attention.
Your just not expecting Richard to
open an album in this way.
I still find Time way to Emotional
to enjoy.
I whish that RC would have included
a few more cuts with Dionne. From
what I unseratand Im Not In love
Alone was the last song heard by
Karen over the phone that was to
be recorded on a future album.
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Post by cam83 on Aug 4, 2004 1:45:27 GMT -5
Yeah, I think you are correct in that. Karen was supposed to be at a party with Richard, I think, maybe a Christmas party but it was raining cats and dogs, and Karen didn't want to have to drive from her place to where it was. So Richard played her the song over the phone, IN LOVE ALONE.
My thoughts,
Cameron
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Post by Rick Henry on Aug 4, 2004 11:19:42 GMT -5
 I have "Time" in three different formats and I really enjoy it. I especially like "Say Yeah" and the Dusty Springfield and Dionne Warwick songs. I don't think it's as good as a Carpenters album only because Karen's voice isn't there, but Richard's arrangements are excellent. This album is a hint as to the direction the C's would have taken had Karen lived. The sound on the album was very '80's. Upbeat and great electric guitar work. In some way I think Richard went in the direction of Karen's solo (of course without the disco). The songs are more aggressive. Some suggest that C's may have done more standards, but knowing Karen's personality and Richard's sense of experimentation I really don't think they would have went that direction. I really think that with each decade they would have kept up with current trends and sounds, and maybe throwing a traditional standard or two in the mix. I remember reading a review written in 1970 or 71. The reviewer stated the Carpenters have reached back to the 40's and '50's with their vocal harmonies and though the music is soft they used many elements of today's rock music. Including progressive drum patterns, electric guitar, slick keyboard chords, steamy saxophone, and Karen's silky yet bold voice. This music although reminiscent of decades past in also very much in touch with today's musical trends. And is actually leading and shaping the trends others are adopting. (I don't remember exactly how the reveiwer worded himself so this is my adaptation of what he said).
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Post by BethMosior on Aug 4, 2004 14:09:34 GMT -5
Thats real cool Rick, I didn't know about Time and the early review, this is why I love this forum, I'm always learning or hearing something new about Karen & Richard almost every day thanx very much everything about Richards 1st solo record I love but like you said Rick, it just isn't the same without Karen's voice in it  but it is to me great just the same, just in a different way. I wish that I could get it on a CD because my Tape cassette is wearing out, hope one day I can buy that CD, then I wouldn't worry so much about it breaking or getting stuck in the player like tapes tend to do  |
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Post by Federico Cruz on Aug 4, 2004 15:34:44 GMT -5
Another thing:
If Universal Music and Richard decide re-release Time, I suggest one or two bonus tracks to make it more attractive for the people already has it.
If the album didn't sell well was due at lack of promotion: I never knew of its release until 1996!.
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Post by cam83 on Aug 4, 2004 16:13:30 GMT -5
TIME was an ok album...nothing great! But yeah, it is a hint of things to come if the Carpenters had continued in the music business. Although I think in some way, it reminded me of Karen's solo album. SAY YEAH always reminds me of what Richard said about Karen trying to sound tough which sounded so fake...on HER solo album. SAY YEAH is alright but sounds fake too! Although to be honest, I never was a fan of Karen's STILL IN LOVE WITH YOU...thought it didn't sound quite like her. But at least she spread her wings, and Richard spread his wings. On his album, I really like the heartfelt CALLING YOUR NAME AGAIN, lyrics by Richard Marx(I believe) so this song is not about Karen per se.
My thoughts,
Cameron
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Post by Moe on Aug 4, 2004 21:41:24 GMT -5
The album isn't great, but it is interesting. A lot of the songs are really strong, but really need a strong vocalist to go with them. When I listen to it, I just think "how nice Karen would sound on that song!" The 2 songs sung by Dusty and Dionne are great and it is a good investment for a Carpenters' fan, but not the casual listener. I would check places that sell used CD's and albums. I actually saw it once as a CD, but didn't buy it. I regret that now!
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Post by JIM on Aug 6, 2004 5:28:58 GMT -5
I can still remember waiting for the record store to open on the
day TIME was released back in 87.
At the time I was selling electronics for the HECHT Co.
I paced the C.D. In a 150watt 15"
bass reflex system and cranked the
volume. Needless to say I jumped
back on Say Yeah!
I feel bad that RC was unable to
acheive comeback satus but with
Karen gone he did his best. I still
find I'm STILL NOT OVER YOU to be
his finest lead vocal.
The accepela in the title track
still moves me to tears.
JIM
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Post by BethMosior on Aug 6, 2004 5:51:49 GMT -5
I agree with you Jim ' I'm Still Not Over You ' really is awesome wow and ' When Time Was All We Had ', it's beautiful, but it really gets me crying, just thinking of Richards very big lose thinking also how every time he does music for us, with Karens voice ringing in his ears, how very hard that must be for him  I always am greatful to Richard that despite his great saddness for Karens lose, he keeps her memory alive for us BRAVO to you Richard and thank you ever so much |
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Post by Rick Henry on Aug 6, 2004 11:17:19 GMT -5
Yes, bravo to you Richard! Thank you very much for keeping the legacy alive!!!
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Post by Rob813 on Aug 7, 2004 10:03:40 GMT -5
Beth and Rick, I agree with both of you. I'm very grateful to Richard for so lovingly producing and releasing all the material he has thus far. I'm sure it has not been easy for him. A solo career has eluded him. He has had to work in the shadow of his sister's enourmous talent.
Ironically his mother thought Richard was the brilliant child with the lion's share of the talent in the family. Yet it was clearly Karen's awesome voice that propelled Carpenters to the top. I think this dynamic had something to do with Karen's eating disorder. It's been written about by people smarter than me. Somehow Karen felt inadequate because of this. She was always looking up to and praising Richard; taking care of him. I think she placed her own needs second. Subconsciously this had to eat away at her.
Anyway, Richard has made what appears to be a comfortable life for himself with his wife Mary and five children now! That must keep him very busy. He also founded the Richard and Karen Carpenter Performing Arts Center in southern California. Additionally he has re-mastered all of their previously released material and released some "treasures" that heretofore have been sealed away in a vault.
I'm sure he wonders what might have been, but moving forward, as he has, is good therapy for him. I wish him only the best. As I said, I'm very grateful for all the music that he has made available to us.
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Post by JIM on Aug 7, 2004 12:56:31 GMT -5
Boy Rob!!
You are so right. We tend
to get so rapped up i the iconic
nature of Rihard and Karen but
stray from the fact that they
were also every bit as human as
we are.
JIM
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Post by Rob813 on Aug 8, 2004 12:28:37 GMT -5
Yeah guys I wanted to let you know I found a copy of "Time" on e-bay last night. I bid up to 20.00 for it but was already out-bid. It shows the CD's popularity. I'll keep trying to buy a copy. I just didn't think it would be this difficult.
Rob
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