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Post by cam83 on Jul 19, 2004 2:19:37 GMT -5
Hi All, I am also listening to this song and adore this reading too. Another Ruby and Romantics song. I love when Karen sings...As the nights go by make you WANNA DIE...the way she sings it is soooo soulful. Really! She just pours her spirit into this song. I had never really thought of Karen as a soulful singer before...I mean, I have read some reviews and people's thoughts of her being soulful but listening to her delivery here...she is so soul! Another aspect of her vocals...She just gets to the guts of this song and tears it to shreds!!!
My thoughts, Cameron
PS. When was this song recorded??
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Post by karen69roland on Jul 19, 2004 3:41:19 GMT -5
Hi, Carpenters friends... The last recording session(Voice of the heart) was in March/April 1982. In relation with the song *Now*... In *The Compact Disc Collection* : Recorded in March '82 In *From the top* : Recorded in April '82 In *The Essential Collection* : Recorded in April '82 The singles *Your baby doesn't love you anymore* with B-side *Sailing on the tide* was released in 1984. No indication that the single made the Billboard's Top 100. I love you Karen... Roland C.
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Post by cam83 on Jul 19, 2004 12:19:39 GMT -5
Hi All, The reason I was kind of interested in learning when she sang it was that it seems she is singing with a new quality and a freshness, that her solo project gave her. She was learning more about her voice, her style, what she could sing, her range etc. Those are my feelings.
My thoughts, Cam
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Post by karen69roland on Jul 19, 2004 16:01:38 GMT -5
Yes, she sounds great. I don't know what it is with people(A&M people, some fans and, surprisingly, Richard) who think that when Karen doesn't sing low range, there's something missing. They didn't let her solo album out because of that. This is not fair to me. Karen has a marvellous voice tone when she sings high range. I'm so sorry for her that, for example..., *My body keeps changing my mind*, didn't make it to the world's ears. To me, if they had let that song out, it would have been a disco classic, just like, let's say..., *I will survive* or *Dancing queen*. Why do I say this in this post? Because they've accepted *Your baby doesn't love you anymore*(a high range vocal song) in a Carpenters album, three an a half year later. This was unfair... So they've put out Karen's solo album in 1996(13 years after her death) and, now, we can all have butterflies in our stomach when we listen to her singing phrases like ''When it comes to dancin' and we FLY together across the floor...'', but, she will never know that we love her solo album. I love you Karen... Roland C.
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Post by Rob813 on Jul 19, 2004 17:48:30 GMT -5
Here's another song that should have been released as a single. It probably would have torn up the charts! Richard was sensitive about not releasing too many oldies singles, but come on, this one should have been an exception. I always knew how extraordinarily talented Karen was and could never understand why she was not praised more by others in the music community. Why did their goody goody image have to stand in the way of the appreciation of her vocal abilities? It just ticks me off about this.
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Post by karen69roland on Jul 19, 2004 18:18:05 GMT -5
Yeah, you're right... Musical virtuosity..., I might add. I love you Karen... Roland C.
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Post by enigma on Jul 19, 2004 19:34:25 GMT -5
YBDLYA is an example of what was to come for the Carpenters I also see a different vocal style influenced by her solo sessions. This makes me agree with Richards statement that he and Karen were just begining to enter a new phase in their careers and that it was a crime that Karen died when she did. As for the solo record there is no doubt that it is a solid piece of work top to bottom and while Richard was talking about crimes he should have mentioned his and A&M's treatment of Karens solo record; that was a crime. Karen should have seen her solo album released in 1980 but I am glad her fans got to hear it even if it was 16 years too late.
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Post by Rick Henry on Jul 19, 2004 22:53:48 GMT -5
Yes the solo album should have been released, that is without a doubt. Hearing now, how great the album is, there is no doubt in my mind that it would have been a platinum seller.
"Your Baby" was released as a single on January 31, 1984. But it did not make the top 100, I think it peaked somewhere just outside the top 100.
As to when it was recorded I believe it was in 1980.
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Post by JIM on Jul 20, 2004 1:09:00 GMT -5
Hi Roland! It looks like we are the insomniacs of the day. I will never understand why Richard was so against Karens Solo work. The songs are so dynamic. Even if A&M had reservations about Karen going solo and Richard felt the lyrics didn't fit Karens image. They should have comprimised on the come back album. The new sound from the solo work would have taken the public by surprise in the way Olivia did. MIA was so good but not as dynamic as Karens solo work! The multitracking work is just so mezmorising. I don't Know if you have heard Akikio and Richard on Only The Angels Know. That song is fantastic I wish Karen had recorded it. JIM
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Post by beaner on Jul 20, 2004 5:26:21 GMT -5
JGH,
Where did you get to listen to the song "Only the Angels know" that Richard performs with Akikio? I would love to hear it.
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Post by karen69roland on Jul 20, 2004 5:29:42 GMT -5
Hi Jim... Well..., I stayed awake all night, making music. Aren't the back vocals great on her solo album? We all know they are marvellous in The Carpenters(lots of Karen and lots of Richard), but, on her solo album, it's only : Karen, Karen, Karen..., many, many, many times. And the back vocals melodies are done in a strange, but, very pleasing manner. I'm shure she had a lot of fun doing those tracks. I sure have some fun listening to them. Have a good day, Jim. I love you Karen... Roland C.
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Post by JIM on Jul 20, 2004 9:54:42 GMT -5
Hey Beaner. The song I was refering to is from Akikos album City of Angels. Recorded around 1988. Akiko aside from her accent has a voice that comes very close to Karens. I heard a song from this album on the radio only once and was stunned when I called the radio station to inquire about it. At the time I consinderd myself a Carpenters expert and thought I have every album what is this? There are two versions of this album one is Akkiko alone with mostly strings and piano. The other album produced by Richard plays exactly like a Carpenters album with backing vocals exactly as they were done by Karen and Richard. The style is where YBDLYAM left off. Only The Angels Know is a just a way cool song with a jazz arrangement, great insturmentation and the multitracking back up is some of Richards best work ever. I don't know if this album is still in print but Akiko is still making new albums and has a web site. She has a tribute album to Karen titled A Song For You but she sings it in a higher pitch and there are no backng voals by Richard, it came out last year. I will try and find the link with the track listing JIM
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Post by cam83 on Jul 20, 2004 12:06:52 GMT -5
Hello Guys, I too loved CITY OF ANGELS, the album RC produced for AKIKO. Some gorgeous songs sung in the same style that Karen had would have done. I really like the album. Before the solo album came out in 1996, I heard AKIKO's album, and some of the songs, I imagined were songs on Karen's album. They helped me carry thru to the real thing when Karen's solo debut came forth. I love THE REPLY, ONLY THE ANGELS KNOW, and there is several other songs not on that CITY OF ANGELS album, but that I heard later on. MISUNDERSTANDING, IF ONLY YESTERDAY and a few others are some that are recorded by Akiko in the late 1980's, early 1990's, that sound very very Karen-esque. It gives me a thrill to listen to her.
My thoughts, Cameron
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Post by JIM on Jul 20, 2004 12:17:51 GMT -5
Hey Cam. the songs you mentioned by Akiko Misunderstoodand and Only Yesterday. Do they have Ricard on back up vocals?
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Post by cam83 on Jul 20, 2004 12:29:23 GMT -5
Hi, Don't think they do but they still come darn close to being CARPENTEResque....check it out.
Cam
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Post by Peteruk on Jul 20, 2004 12:35:25 GMT -5
Great song and interesting that Richard selected YBDLYA as second single in USA from Voice Album ...that must have surprised many fans & reviewers Really A&M needed to compile film / video of outtake footage to promote this on networks , MTV etc in 1984 -song would have charted with more support Peter
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