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Post by cam83 on Jul 16, 2004 15:49:02 GMT -5
Hi All, I was just watching the OPRAH show, which has a repeat broadcast of Wynonna Judd. On the portion of her video diary, she is on day 6, and just celebrated her son's 9th birthday, in the background you can hear Karen singing WHITE CHRISTMAS. I thought that was beautiful!! Wynonna is a Karen fan!!! YAY!!
Cam
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Post by Superstargal on Jul 16, 2004 17:33:26 GMT -5
That's so neat that you found that Cam! Wynonna has got great taste!!
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Post by Jim on Jul 16, 2004 21:38:24 GMT -5
My wife said that she saw Gloria Estefan on "The View" and she was working with Chrissy Hyde of the Pretenders on an album. Estefan said the common ground between her and Chrissy was the fact that they loved Karen Carpenter. I thought that to be very cool!
Jim
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Post by Moe on Jul 17, 2004 2:01:57 GMT -5
I had on Oprah, with Wynonna, but didn't catch the White Christmas song in the background. I love Gloria Estefan and happy to hear she likes Karen. Gloria and Chrissy duet on Gloria's latest CD, Unwrapped. It is a great CD, but hasn't gotten the sales she is used to, here in the States. I have yet to hear a song from the new CD on the radio, yet.
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Post by cam83 on Jul 17, 2004 12:44:40 GMT -5
Hi All, No, I never saw a similarity between Gloria's voice and Karen's voice. The only similiarity might be that Gloria has a lower, huskier voice but that's it. I have thought of them as two separate artists, and have known Gloria was a huge Karen fan, and it might show in some of her phrasings but...other than that.
My thoughts, Cameron PS. I did like her songs WORDS GET IN THE WAY and HERE WE ARE, as well as the dance smash DON'T LET THIS MOMENT END.
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Post by karen69roland on Jul 17, 2004 15:34:06 GMT -5
Hi everybody... Well..., no..., I don't think there's someone sounding like Karen. And that's what makes her so unique..., well, her playing the drums is even more unique. ;D Shania Twain(sometimes) sounds just a little like Karen. Listen to the song *Come on over*... When she sings the part ''take a load off your feet''... The tone of her voice on the word ''FEET'' is devinitively Karen's tone. Member since yesterday, it's only my third post. Hi hope I'll make some good Carpenters friends. I love you Karen... Roland C.
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Post by BethMosior on Jul 17, 2004 15:36:04 GMT -5
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Post by Moe on Jul 17, 2004 19:13:00 GMT -5
I have never noticed a similarity between Gloria and Karen's voices, but I have heard that others have. Phil Ramone compared the 2 singers around the time of Gloria's "Cuts both Ways" CD. I believe he was talking about the title cut. Phil did produce Gloria's Christmas CD a couple of years later. (which isn't very good...my opinion only)
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Post by Rick Henry on Jul 17, 2004 22:24:16 GMT -5
To put my tin ears in perspective, the first time I heard Asia I thought Barry Manilow was singing...don't laugh too loud! Too funny. Anyway I was told several years ago by a friend who was friends with a friend of a cousin of K&R that Gloria Estefan had asked Richard to tutor her in the techniques of Karen's vocal style. Richard gave her a few pointers, but nothing further than that. In some songs in certain phrases Gloria does sound similar to Karen. On Gloria I think she is among the finest female vocalists of all time. She has a most wonderful voice. I also love Chrissie Hynde - she's great too.
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Post by enigma on Jul 17, 2004 22:24:39 GMT -5
Well I'll put my two cents worth in here about Gloria Estefan and Karen. I do see simularities and my hearing is fine. It is not so much that she sounds identical to Karen (nobody does) but I remember when I first heard Gloria sing with MSM I said to myself that I had not heard a more pure and beautiful voice since. since...(at the time the name eluded me briefly)...Karen Carpenter and I do still feel that way. I realise others may think I am giving Gloria too much credit or may fail to see the simularities but I see simularities. I like Gloria Estefans voice and found it partially filled the enormous void left by Karen.
I also liked the fact that Wynonna and others loved and/or were influenced by Karen Carpenter. I am amazed at the list of female artists from Madonna to Gwen Stephanie (sp) who are finally admitting they were influenced by Karen it is long overdue she got credit for her influence on this generations female artists. I am loving it!
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Post by Rick Henry on Jul 17, 2004 22:27:55 GMT -5
You can add k.d. lang to the list of Karen fans. k.d. is another fine vocalist. Phoebe Snow is also an admirer of Karen's voice.
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Post by cam83 on Jul 18, 2004 0:19:09 GMT -5
Hi Everyone, Another one to add is the very successful SANDI PATTY, who has always been a big fan of Karen Carpenter and considered her to be her musical idol. In some of Sandi's songs there are similarities in phrasing, especially the HAVE YOURSELF A MERRY LITTLE CHRISTMAS song that is on Sandi's THE GIFT GOES ON holiday album, she sounds very similar to Karen's style. Also of course is the humorous rendition of Karen singing JESUS LOVES ME, the way Sandi thinks Karen would sing that song. Too funny.
Yes, Enigma, you hit the nail on the head. There was a vast emptiness in the music world when Karen died. And Gloria, to some part, was able to fill that spot. She does have a beautiful voice and I like her as a performer.
My thoughts, Cameron
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