And When He Smiles...

[smoothie2]

I saw a video clip on one of the websites with Karen singing..And When He Smiles...kind of an unusual but upbeat tune I think even though I guess not recorded. Just wondering about that one...it doesn't last very long and maybe doesn't make a lot of sense, but it ranks in there a little on the level of Eve...although, Eve has tremendous vocal parts and harmony.

[beaner]

I saw that clip too and I think it's a great little catchy tune. I always love to watch Karen play the drums too. You can tell how much she loved it and was so comfortable with it. It's a wonder she never wanted to get out in front and sing.

[ThomB]

And When He Smiles is such a great song. It is included on the As Time Goes By CD. It's the last song on the disc. It comes in at around two and a half minutes.

[Benn]

On the 2001 Japanese CD "As Times Goes BY"; "And When He Smiles" is listed as a bonus track. On the 2004 "ATGB", "AWHS" is listed by name. Both have the few second pause after the 1976 Medley. On a related note; last night, (Mon. May 10, 2004), I picked up my 4th copy of "As Time Goes By" from the Latham, NY Wal-Mart. It was selling for $12.99. I sure hope "ATGB" is a big seller and Richard will release more "Buried Treasure" songs. Benn

[Benn]

I purchased two copies of "As Times Goes Buy" from Japan, courtsey of Yuka Ogura, in 2001; one copy from a local music/video chain in the USA two weeks ago, and one from the Latham, NY Wal-Mart last night. I sometimes buy more than one copy of a Carpenters CD; one to play and one, unsealed, to save. I'm hoping the more I buy, the more new Carpenters items, Richard will put on the market. Also, when VH-1 aired the 1971 BBC Carpenters concert a while back, they left out "And When He Smiles", because it would not fit into the half-hour time slot alloted to it. If VH-1 had cut out a few commericals, I sure they could have had room. Benn ;D

[Rick Henry]

Hi Benn, when did VH-1 show the BBC Concert. I missed it. Would be great if VH-1 were to air it again.

[smoothie2]

;Dthank you all for the info. about the song and where it can be found. thanks much!

[jeff]

Hi Rick,

I recorded 25 minutes of the BBC 1971 concert on VH1 seven years ago. Thats all they showed.

The featured songs were the Burt Bacharach medley, Rainy Days And Mondays, and For All We Know.

Also, Close to you and Weve Only Just Begun were aired.

And that is all they showed.

Karen`s comments on stage were also aired where she talked about her and richard being just two kids from downey. Karen also was glad the audience had a special night and she thanked the audience for making the night special for her and richard.

I wish i knew when VH1 was going to air the concert again. If they do, they should show the concert in its entirety, not just certain songs .

[Christian]

I read somewhere that And When He Smiles was also recorded, but I always thought that it was only played in concerts and it is a concert recording which has been released. Does anyone know?

Nice little cathcy song though, although not hit material I think. But it would have been better on an album then songs like Druscilla Pennyn and Saturday.

[ThomB]

I also remember hearing something about a studio recording of the song. The carpenters album was so short that And When He Smiles could have been added without replacing any of the songs.

[Peteruk]

Hi All,

And When He Smiles is a favourite song from ATGB set -first heard this back in the 1990's and saw original BBC 1971 TV Special at UK Fan Convention in 1992

ATGB has the BBC Special version ....there are concert versions from 1971/1972 that Richard could issue on future Live or Rarities albums .....

Carpenters did plan to record studio version in late 1971 ...but strangely only the backing track / basic demo was done. Karen never added lead vocal -sadly

I have heard about USA VH1 network showing BBC 1971 Special ....did not realise this was edited version.

Original special ran 50 minutes with two Tony Joe White songs (White was guest artist) ....so USA fans still have 15 -20 minutes to view.

This BBC Special is one of the best early TV performances from Karen on drums , Richard on keyboards and backing group ....would be a favourite choice for release on DVD & Video ....just have to negotiate copyrights and musical clearances ....so probably only another few years until issued !

Peter ....AWHS....

[Benn]

I think the last time VH-1 aired the Carpenters 1971 BBC televised concert , (without "And When He Smiles" because it wouldn't fit into the half-hour time slot alotted), was in 1998 or 1999. I was hoping the recent sucess of the "Gold" CD might lead to the airing of some television shows, but, no luck. Benn ;D

[karenandrichardfan]

Maybe we should all send an email or letter to VH-1 concerning our interest in seeing the BBC Concert.

[smoothie2]

;Dhey...sure is good to know about And When He Smiles, but also about any special appearances being shown ...and or not shown.
It's hard for me to realize that 1971 was so very long ago. I recall listening to the Carps. and having either the tv or radio on almost at any time day or night at our house on the farm...and then if my brother or I was to help in the fields, with the cotton, or whatever..in the pickup would be the radio.
My brother's first car..and the 8 track tape deck he put in himself.
My mom and I watched a lot of game shows too.
My sister's husband came back from Viet Nam and so they lived not too far away and I got to play with the nephews.
Oh my...I'm sure it was a very stressful time just as life is for us all, but I mostly recall the good times.
In '72 my bro. married which meant I got to have my own room in which I could close the door and watch my own tv late...! and listen to all my records...all I wanted.

[smoothie2]

great idea karenandrichardfan....!