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Post by cam83 on Jan 30, 2004 18:16:19 GMT -5
Hi All,
I was thinking what it would be like, if a girl with a voice like Karen's sung in front of Simon, Paula and Randy and what their thoughts would be...I always keep hoping...but never hear any like hers. Although, I heard someone...say that a voice like Karen's only comes around once every several generations. How true!!
My thoughts,
Cameron
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Post by Rick Henry on Jan 30, 2004 19:26:16 GMT -5
It's true a voice like Karen does come around only every several generations. I don't think there has been another yet. some come close to the richness and purity, but lack in one way or another. k.d. lang has quite an amazing voice - smooth, soulful, powerful, perfect pitch, tone, range - but than k.d. lacks that inexplainable something that Karen had. Another thing that adds to Karen's voice is her unique personality and looks and also the fact that she was a female drummer - and an excellent drummer at that.
If Karen were brand new today and went on American Idol she would completely wow the judges. Look at the shows she was on the All-american College show - they were on twice and won both times. Of course Karen sang and played drums at the same time - how could they lose.
But something makes me think Karen wouldn't be the American Idol type, she's more the roots musician type, who started out in a garage band and worked her (their) way from obscurity, as opposed to starting out on a multi-million dollar television show. I think that's part of the lasting appeal of the Carpenters. They are roots more so than glitz.
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Post by Will on Jan 30, 2004 19:29:22 GMT -5
This is an interesting thought.
A Karen Carpenter quality singer might end up being cast aside.
Success depends on the song selected, key chosen, singing from the heart as well as for the judges.
Very early Karen would probably fail at this. Later Karen would probably succeed.
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Post by Moe on Jan 30, 2004 21:09:59 GMT -5
I don't think American Idol would appreciate Karen's voice. She might have made it to the final 10, but I can see the public voting for her. They seem to vote for the ones that yell the best. Also, vocal gymnastics is a must in todays pop world. I like Clay, Kelly, Rueben, but I don't see the magic and gift that Karen possessed!
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Post by Rick Henry on Jan 30, 2004 22:06:47 GMT -5
I don't think American Idol would appreciate Karen's voice. She might have made it to the final 10, but I can see the public voting for her. They seem to vote for the ones that yell the best. Also, vocal gymnastics is a must in todays pop world. I like Clay, Kelly, Rueben, but I don't see the magic and gift that Karen possessed! It's so true. They do seem to vote for the one's who yell the best (I agree Clay, Kelly and Ruben are wonderfully talented - Ruben would be my favorite of the three). I can really appreciate one who is intimate with their phrasing and tones. Karen was certainly intimate and personal in her vocal style. But as far as vocal gymnastics being a must in today's pop world, I don't think that is always true. Once again I mention Norah Jones, she's easily the most popular of them all and she is not out there yelling her songs or displaying overworked vocal gymnastics. Maybe the American Idol panelists might not vote for Karen, but I just don't see that. Karen's voice was so unique, fresh, dazzling, pure in tone, pitch, and key. Her breath control was amazing. She conveyed innocense, intimacy and authority all in one. She could sing in her lowest voice to her highest in one breath. She could do things naturally that most trained vocalists can't do. It would be hard for anybody who really knows anything about the mechanics of vocal production to pass her up - even in her earliest days. |
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Post by Polgara on Jan 31, 2004 4:12:20 GMT -5
Yeah, Cam83...I too was hoping for somebody like Karen to appear... I bet Paula, Randy and notorious(giggles) Simon will be blown away if they ever hear someone like Karen sing. I just had a thought...if Karen was still alive, she would be one of the guest judges for the finalists of American Idol! *whistles*  |
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Post by OceanKing on Feb 4, 2004 14:28:06 GMT -5
If Karen or someone who sounds like her were to audition for "American Idol," I honestly think they'd pass on her, mainly because she doesn't scream the lyrics or do those annoying 'runs.'
Simon would say, "Very pretty, but that was a cabaret performance. I wouldn't know what to do with you in the studio."
Randy would say, "Good tone, dawg, but there's just not enough feeling."
Paula would probably like her.
I've heard them say things like this to several singers who I thought were pretty good, and often those folks don't even make it to the Final 32. I think the music industry has such poor taste today that it wouldn't be able to see Karen's potential. Sad.
That said, though, I think Richard Carpenter would make a GREAT guest judge on Idol, much like Neil Sedaka and Gladys Knight last year. Imagine if they had the singers do a Carpenters Night? Wow.
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Post by Rick Henry on Feb 4, 2004 22:31:29 GMT -5
A Carpenters night on American Idol would be a wonderful tribute!
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Post by Sammy on Feb 8, 2004 11:46:07 GMT -5
Karen has crystal clear tones I just can't imagine her being cast aside on a show like american Idol. Her voice is so unique and perfect.
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