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Post by Federico Cruz on Oct 16, 2003 17:29:45 GMT -5
In the Coleman book, page 50, we can read that "Shortly after their arrival in California...Richard was spotted by Vance Hayes, music director at the local Methodist Church. He needed an organist and inmediately gave the impressive teenager the role. Richard said he had never played a pipe organ and never knew no organ music...". "Though church music was a distance from the sounds and styles he would eventually embrace..."
I said that I really find religious influences in the early Carpenters sound.
I hear it in :
Invocation, Benediction, Eve(the choir and last musical notes), For All We Know (the choir and last musical notes), Close To You (the chorus line Waaaaah), Crescent Noon, Intermission (Richard wrote the lyrics and the music was inspired by the Crucifixus of Antonio Lotti) and Druscilla Penny (the last chorus line No, noooo).
What are your thoughts?
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Post by Will on Oct 16, 2003 23:09:40 GMT -5
I listened to both Christmas albums today.
I'd call that church music!
Also, don't you wonder how things might have been different if he hadn't been spotted by Vance?
It makes you wonder about others who weren't spotted.
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Post by Rick Henry on Oct 16, 2003 23:20:59 GMT -5
I hear this influence also in the lyrics of their songs. "Love Is Surrender" was a Christian song. The actual lyric reads, "For love is surrender. You must surrender to His Will."
Songs like "Bless The Beasts And Children" and "Top Of The World" have a sense of spirituality in their lyrics.
That's just one more thing I love about the Carpenters, they filled the world with songs of love and beauty.
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Post by Moe on Oct 17, 2003 4:28:10 GMT -5
"Love is Surrender" is on an old LP of a Christian group that my Mom may, or may not, still have from the 70's. I don't remember the group but I do remember hearing it and it does have a more "spirtual" love verses the Carpenters version of "universal" love. Also, I love the organ in "I can't make music" from the Now and Then album. If I remember correctly, they had to record that part of the song in a church to get the organ in. I don't know if this falls into the topic, but I love "I can't make music" and don't mind plugging the song.  |
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Post by smoothie2 on Oct 19, 2003 20:15:13 GMT -5
:)Hi Federico..this IS an interesting topic...certainly the Christmas songs are spirituals and it's interesting to know the background of their music. I also wonder if maybe the song "I Won't Last a Day Without You" could be conceived as a spiritually related song sort of like Debby Boone's "You Light Up My Life". I love all the choral arrangements of all the songs mentioned. The Carps. certainly are so well known for such wonderful vocals and harmonies.
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Post by smoothie2 on Oct 19, 2003 20:17:59 GMT -5
And God certainly blessed Karen and Richard..I really believe it..He wanted the world to have more beauty and harmony!
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Post by Rick Henry on Oct 20, 2003 2:08:41 GMT -5
And God certainly blessed Karen and Richard..I really believe it..He wanted the world to have more beauty and harmony! I'm with you there Smoothie. There's something about the music of The Carpenters and Karen's voice. Both are Heaven sent. I have always described them as being more than just talented but blessed with a very special gift. |
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Post by cam83 on Oct 20, 2003 2:19:09 GMT -5
Hi All,
In some way, Karen was able to add a religious feeling to a song...she had that magic...well, the fact that she had a God-given voice...I find a lot of her songs are spiritual in a way...
Top of the World
We've Only Just Begun
Crescent Noon
Another Song
Maybe It's You
Sing
Because We Are In Love
I Just Fall In Love Again
And When I Die
and of course the Christmas songs...I guess she could really add that "spiritual" side to songs...and I don't mean the typical gospel music songs...but more so...in how these songs could really uplift you and cause you to reflect on life...etc.
Cam
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