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Post by Rick Henry on Apr 30, 2009 19:40:14 GMT -5
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Post by YesterdayOnceMore on May 1, 2009 15:59:17 GMT -5
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Post by Rick Henry on May 1, 2009 21:29:26 GMT -5
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Post by ps11932 on May 2, 2009 14:04:32 GMT -5
Speaking of Carole King- I have a great deal of respect for her musical work and conduct and consider her to be one of the great musical figures of her era. Doe anybody else recall her appearance on "Gilmore Girls" about 10 year ago?
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Post by Rick Henry on May 3, 2009 8:33:56 GMT -5
Speaking of Carole King- I have a great deal of respect for her musical work and conduct and consider her to be one of the great musical figures of her era. Doe anybody else recall her appearance on "Gilmore Girls" about 10 year ago? I have never watched the Gilmore Girls so I've missed out on this one... But... I am always amazed at the amount of hits Carole King has written. Her songwriting credits include songs such as: The Locomotion Take Good Care Of My Baby Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow One Fine Day Go Away Little Girl Crying In The Rain Don't Say Nothing Bad About My Baby Hey Girl Up On The Roof I'm Into Something Good Oh No Not My Baby Pleasant Valley Sunday You Make Me Feel Like A Natural Woman It's Going To Take Sometime You've Got A Friend ... and several others... not to mention the many songs she's recorded and had hits with.  |
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Post by YesterdayOnceMore on May 3, 2009 13:43:45 GMT -5
Speaking of Carole King- I have a great deal of respect for her musical work and conduct and consider her to be one of the great musical figures of her era. Doe anybody else recall her appearance on "Gilmore Girls" about 10 year ago?  Yes, I remember, O.E. As you know, I'm a big fan of Gilmore Girls. Carole King has some amazing music, I will have to agree. Thanks for the B side info, Rick....I've got that hanging up here (the 45) in my studio, and thought it was Flat Baroque, but wasn't sure. I recall taking the 45 WITH me when I went to visit a friend. Couldn't be without it. Hmmm....too bad that feeling sort of went away - but perhaps if I begin listening to it again, I'll get it back. Who knows?! I have always liked Flat Baroque, though. Cute little Baroque song, and Richard can play the period music of Bach/Beethoven, etc., quite well. |
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Post by Rick Henry on May 4, 2009 8:13:33 GMT -5
Speaking of Carole King- I have a great deal of respect for her musical work and conduct and consider her to be one of the great musical figures of her era. Doe anybody else recall her appearance on "Gilmore Girls" about 10 year ago? Yes, I remember, O.E. As you know, I'm a big fan of Gilmore Girls. Carole King has some amazing music, I will have to agree. Thanks for the B side info, Rick....I've got that hanging up here (the 45) in my studio, and thought it was Flat Baroque, but wasn't sure. I recall taking the 45 WITH me when I went to visit a friend. Couldn't be without it. Hmmm....too bad that feeling sort of went away - but perhaps if I begin listening to it again, I'll get it back. Who knows?! I have always liked Flat Baroque, though. Cute little Baroque song, and Richard can play the period music of Bach/Beethoven, etc., quite well. |
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Post by enigma on May 4, 2009 20:27:27 GMT -5
I loved the fact Carol played a charactor that was more dramatic and dark as opposed to her usual comedic talent we know her for and yes Rick Carol was great on CSI I enjoyed watching her and I do not normally watch that serie I go for the Miami spin off myself just love that Curuso charactor on the show.
As for Carol King what a talented sucessful songwriter still love her tapestry album and she proved she still had it when she was on Private sessions not tooo long ago. Great talented lady!
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Post by Rick Henry on May 4, 2009 21:33:48 GMT -5
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Post by wisejester7 on May 5, 2009 9:21:16 GMT -5
I always wondered how the songs were chosen for radio play time ... thus giving particular songs more "chart" credence. It seems some of the best songs are left to discovery via album play only. |
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Post by Rick Henry on May 5, 2009 21:13:36 GMT -5
I always wondered how the songs were chosen for radio play time ... thus giving particular songs more "chart" credence. It seems some of the best songs are left to discovery via album play only. |
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Post by wisejester7 on May 6, 2009 8:25:18 GMT -5
It doesn't sound like the artist has much say in what they want the public to grasp/hear first and foremost.
Clearly, someone is making the decision on what gets airtime. I suppose it all comes down to money somehow and not so much the art and artist.
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Post by Rick Henry on May 6, 2009 10:35:02 GMT -5
It doesn't sound like the artist has much say in what they want the public to grasp/hear first and foremost. Clearly, someone is making the decision on what gets airtime. I suppose it all comes down to money somehow and not so much the art and artist. Back in the 70's the artist did have a good amount more say in what was released as a single then nowadays. Karen and Richard chose the majority of their singles themselves. Paul McCartney, Elton John heavy weights like them pretty much ran their own show. Some of the others like Anne Murray, The Osmonds, Bobby Sherman who just went into the studio and recorded vocals to prerecorded music generally did not have much input as to what would be put out as a single or really much artistic input in the whole process. The Carpenters had their hands on every aspect of the music making process, they did not just go into the studio and put their voices onto prerecorded music tracks which were done by producers and arrangers while they were not there. Karen and Richard were the ones putting those musical tracks together... they had control over their music... anyway up until about 1981. The Supremes are a prime example of a group who went into the studio for about 2 weeks to put their vocals onto the music tracks and were out of the studio and done with their album, that's why they were able to release three even four albums a year. The Carpenters would take three to four months to record one album, they put a lot of work into their music. Although once the single was released it was up to the public to make it a hit or not... hence sales and requests. Also the larger the record company the bigger the distribution of the single would be. A company like Capitol records would be able to afford to distribute a new single to 8,000 radio stations versus a smaller company like Handshake Records or Butterfly Records which might have a budget to distribute to only 2,000 radio stations. A&M Records was a sizable company by the time Carpenters hit big and Carpenters helped A&M to become even bigger. A&M would give an artist like Carpenters top treatment and invest more money into promoting a new 45 by them, which would mean their new single would make it to the maximum amount of radio stations over say someone like Chaz Jankel or Claudine Longet who would most likely be distributed to about one third the amount of radio stations. But that is how it worked in the 70's. In today's market the internet makes it much easier to distribute a song and for much less money. You are right WJ7 it is a money game. The single is all about promoting and selling the album. It's not so much about the song itself... it's all about the album... that's where the money is. Although artists like Carpenters also made huge amounts of money on their singles and their singles were also quite good... anyhow most of them. Nowadays a song doesn't even have to sell one copy to make it to #1 on the charts where as back in the 70's if a song made #1 it most likely sold at least one million copies. Back in the 50's, 60's and 70's a hit single was truly a hit single... that all started to change in the 80's though. By the 90's a #1 song generally sold around half a million copies... by that point the power of a hit single was lessening and a hit song did not have such a huge impact on society such as a song like Elvis Presley's "Don't Be Cruel", the Beatles' "Yesterday" or Carpenters' "We've Only Just Begun". Back then a #1 song was generally known by everybody. In the past 20 years half the songs that reach #1 are not as well known. |
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