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Post by Rick Henry on Feb 13, 2009 15:43:13 GMT -5
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Post by carpentersgermany on Feb 14, 2009 18:35:57 GMT -5
Oh yes, I agree 100%, Rick!! What a surprise, right?  This is a part of their BBC performance in 1971, isn't it? I love the whole set - starting with "Help", a really really great performance of "For all we know" by Karen and some more cool live music by the Carpenters.. |
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Post by enigma on Feb 14, 2009 19:15:02 GMT -5
True Rick and not surprising both Karen and Richard were perfectionists and rehearsed their live show and their no nonsense approach to doing a live show and sticking to the rehersed format further demonstrates the great care that went into each live show the Carpenters were true professionals in and out of the studio. Must have been alot of pressure to keep the shows so flawless or as close as possible but the Carpenters always seemed to pull it off. The most surprising thing to me was Karens maintaining her perfect voice even when playing live and even when drumming and singing few if any performers can do this as well as Karen she was truely unique and gifted.   |
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Post by Rick Henry on Feb 14, 2009 20:41:55 GMT -5
True Rick and not surprising both Karen and Richard were perfectionists and rehearsed their live show and their no nonsense approach to doing a live show and sticking to the rehersed format further demonstrates the great care that went into each live show the Carpenters were true professionals in and out of the studio. Must have been alot of pressure to keep the shows so flawless or as close as possible but the Carpenters always seemed to pull it off. The most surprising thing to me was Karens maintaining her perfect voice even when playing live and even when drumming and singing few if any performers can do this as well as Karen she was truely unique and gifted. |
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Post by YesterdayOnceMore on Feb 17, 2009 10:14:55 GMT -5
  It's funny, Rick - I, too, recall this section quite clearly. Richard and Karen both expected the band to play the song as it was recorded, in order to give their fans what they came to hear. Very seldom during live performances, moreso in the early years rather than later, they varied little from the recording, if that were possible. Sometimes a different instrument was used perhaps in a song (i.e., Close To You...not sure which one it was, probably Dan Woodhams, but he was playing a wind instrument for the trumpet part, rather than the flugelhorn, in this live rendition). K & R wanted the band to play the song as close to the recording as possible. For me, I appreciated that. Both times I saw them in concert, this happened, and it was awesome. I do recall, howver, that the whole "Yesterday Once More" approach - the 50's medley, was much different in concert than it was on the album, right up to different songs - such as the wonderful "Book of Love" and "Sha Boom" which they did in concert, but didn't put on the medley on the Now and Then album. It was great to see them do something different - unexpected. I think Mitzie and Ken Welch had a lot to do with the fact that they were no longer performing JUST their hits, past a certain point, which I do think was a positive for them out on the road. Interesting - I think Karen had more of a gift than most people realize, with that amazing intonation and control over that lucious voice of hers. Just awesome to contemplate. |
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Post by smoothie2 on Feb 25, 2009 21:01:17 GMT -5
  Totally agree...thanks for the link Rick. I have especially remembered Karen of course, as we all have particularly this mo. since the date of her passing, in an extra way. She was the best of the best. She always had control and gave it her all just as Richard also. My love and enthusiasm and interest truly is always renewed each time I can connect with all you out there. My fondest for the Carpenters will always be linked with my growing up yrs. To be able to remember hearing them on the radio for the first time and/or seeing them on tv and then saving money to buy their latest album.... all of those times make me feel a bit younger at times and happy. And now thier beat goes on always. Even seeing the videos of their dress and hair styles of the times give me a smile. Doug Strawn reminds me a bit of my brother and the long side burns.
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Post by smoothie2 on Feb 25, 2009 22:25:27 GMT -5
::)I especially enjoy the younger Karen shows and in particular the '74 Budokan video with them doing the oldies.  Don't recall who it was during one of the interviews on perhaps the E! tv biography show, I think Tony Peluso mentioned that yes, the live shows were done in such a way that any variation from how it was supposed to be, and R. or K. would give someone a tongue lashing. He was a bit guarded in his answer and then quickly added how lucky he had been to work with such talent. ::)So, yes, that's why all their efforts turned out so beautifully. Even tho such perfectionism surely can be overdone. |
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Post by Rick Henry on Feb 26, 2009 1:57:06 GMT -5
It's funny, Rick - I, too, recall this section quite clearly. Richard and Karen both expected the band to play the song as it was recorded, in order to give their fans what they came to hear. Very seldom during live performances, moreso in the early years rather than later, they varied little from the recording, if that were possible. Sometimes a different instrument was used perhaps in a song (i.e., Close To You...not sure which one it was, probably Dan Woodhams, but he was playing a wind instrument for the trumpet part, rather than the flugelhorn, in this live rendition). K & R wanted the band to play the song as close to the recording as possible. For me, I appreciated that. Both times I saw them in concert, this happened, and it was awesome. I do recall, howver, that the whole "Yesterday Once More" approach - the 50's medley, was much different in concert than it was on the album, right up to different songs - such as the wonderful "Book of Love" and "Sha Boom" which they did in concert, but didn't put on the medley on the Now and Then album. It was great to see them do something different - unexpected. I think Mitzie and Ken Welch had a lot to do with the fact that they were no longer performing JUST their hits, past a certain point, which I do think was a positive for them out on the road. Interesting - I think Karen had more of a gift than most people realize, with that amazing intonation and control over that lucious voice of hers. Just awesome to contemplate. |
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Post by Rick Henry on Feb 26, 2009 2:03:30 GMT -5
::)I especially enjoy the younger Karen shows and in particular the '74 Budokan video with them doing the oldies. Don't recall who it was during one of the interviews on perhaps the E! tv biography show, I think Tony Peluso mentioned that yes, the live shows were done in such a way that any variation from how it was supposed to be, and R. or K. would give someone a tongue lashing. He was a bit guarded in his answer and then quickly added how lucky he had been to work with such talent. ::)So, yes, that's why all their efforts turned out so beautifully. Even tho such perfectionism surely can be overdone. |
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