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Post by Rick Henry on May 5, 2008 20:55:54 GMT -5
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Post by beaner on May 6, 2008 5:28:58 GMT -5
I realize I'm probably going to be the only one here but I really didn't like the remix much at all. However, I thought the re-dubbing of Karen singing "away" at the end was cool and sounded good with the other sounds.
The rest kind of bored me a bit. It would have been more interesting if the different background sounds were varied more. I think too much time was spent on one like the guitar in the beginning and then the drums.
Oh well, that's just what I feel. Maybe others will get me to see some different things about it and it may grow on me like so many things can.
Beaner
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Post by wisejester7 on May 6, 2008 6:04:19 GMT -5
I didn't like the remix. The redundancy was too grating to be pleasant. Obviously the creator of the mix with playing with rhythm and sound.
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Post by Rick Henry on May 6, 2008 8:09:24 GMT -5
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Post by beaner on May 6, 2008 8:32:13 GMT -5
Not necessarily for all musicians either. It just depends I guess. I sent it on to two of my friends who are musicians, one being an outstanding guitarist and he didn't care for it at all. The other is a singer and musician and she wasn't fond of it either so it really just depends on the person, musician or not.
Interesting though, CG, how much we can find on YouTube. I check it out regularly. That's how I was able to view Karen's wedding live. That was pretty cool. Have you seen that at all?
Beaner
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Post by Rick Henry on May 6, 2008 8:35:15 GMT -5
Not necessarily for all musicians either. It just depends I guess. I sent it on to two of my friends who are musicians, one being an outstanding guitarist and he didn't care for it at all. The other is a singer and musician and she wasn't fond of it either so it really just depends on the person, musician or not. Interesting though, CG, how much we can find on YouTube. I check it out regularly. That's how I was able to view Karen's wedding live. That was pretty cool. Have you seen that at all? Beaner |
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Post by beaner on May 6, 2008 9:32:03 GMT -5
I actually listened to it first thing this morning before I left for work and emailed my guitarist buddy. He emailed me back at work and my other friend was right there and heard it the same time as me.
Well, honestly the singer and musician is not a rock fan (not that it really does make a difference) but Fred, the guitarist is ALL kinds and he was not impressed but like I said, that's just two people who happen to be musicians.
Different strokes for different folks.
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Post by carpentersgermany on May 6, 2008 17:33:56 GMT -5
Rick, first of all, you're very welcome! I think this Remix or better Mash-Up is excellent. But I have to say that it is very very special, like Mash-Up's in general. Mash-Up or Bastard Pop is an own musical genre, where two or more songs are mixed into one new version. Mostly you take the instrumental of one song and add the vocals of another song. The songs that are mixed into one new song should be of different musical styles. By the way the first Mash-Up Single ever is a mix of Herb Alpert and Public Enemy: The Whipped Cream Mixes de.youtube.com/watch?v=J898EhfXy9wConcerning Herb Alpert vs. Public Enemy I prefer this one: By the time I get to Arizona de.youtube.com/watch?v=TMAfKo65nngMy favourite Mash-Up artists are 2 Many DJ's. You should listen to their Mash-Up of Dolly Parton's "9 to 5" and Röyksopps "Eple" for instance. One of the best Mash-Up's ever! www.myspace.com/2manymashupsBut though I love it, I know that this genre is very special and definitely not to everybody's taste. But again, I love the "Ticket to Ride"-Mash-Up and agree to those on You-Tube who found it "mesmerizing".. |
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Post by carpentersgermany on May 6, 2008 17:59:35 GMT -5
Interesting though, CG, how much we can find on YouTube. I check it out regularly. That's how I was able to view Karen's wedding live. That was pretty cool. Have you seen that at all? Beaner Oh yes, Beaner - YouTube can make you an addict. There's always something new to find and a lot of interesting stuff. I did not see the complete wedding yet, but I saw the conclusion. It was pretty cool, I agree, but at the same time I felt somehow strange watching it. I found another (home)video of Karen's Birthday in 1973. It felt even more strange to watch this one, because I felt like an intruder or something.. It's a very private situation and I just wonder if Karen and her family would like the thought of strangers watching this tape. Anyways, I watched it and found it captivating. Did you watch it? If not: de.youtube.com/watch?v=DEJnSPjwNvc |
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Post by beaner on May 6, 2008 21:11:22 GMT -5
I see what you mean by feeling like we're intruding. It did make me feel a little funny too but I will say one thing. If I were Karen, I wouldn't torn into those presents whereas she was so lady-like and slow in opening them.....hehhehe.
Beaner
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Post by Rick Henry on May 6, 2008 21:13:50 GMT -5
I actually listened to it first thing this morning before I left for work and emailed my guitarist buddy. He emailed me back at work and my other friend was right there and heard it the same time as me. Well, honestly the singer and musician is not a rock fan (not that it really does make a difference) but Fred, the guitarist is ALL kinds and he was not impressed but like I said, that's just two people who happen to be musicians. Different strokes for different folks. I think it does make a difference as to which type of musician is listening. Of course a musician who doesn't understand this musical style just isn't going to capture the essence or the meaning behind it. An easy listening musician most likely won't care for a mash-up, but a mixer or electronica or trip hop musician will most likely love it. I guess it's the background you're coming from.
What I like about this video (aside from the fact that I do very much enjoy this sort of experimentalism)… is that it musically pushes things beyond it’s boundaries. Karen seemed to believe in going beyond her boundaries. This mash-up shows that Karen’s voice blends quite well with today’s bass and beats sounds. The Afro rhythms which weave in and out are also quite complimentary to Karen. Karen certainly is not out of place here.
Had she lived Karen would have melded quite well with the sounds of today... who knows she may have even done a duet with Mary J. Blige.
Of course in order to understand the idea or imagination of this mash-up (and others) you do have to have an ear for today’s musical stylings and an ear for the experimental. That’s not to say that those who don’t have an ear for today’s musical styles (or don't care for today's music) don’t have good musical tastes. I think we all have great tastes in music… it’s just quite wide and varied.
I guess I'm just always wanting to open the musical door with styles and genres that most people think Carpenters fans won't like.
As it is I find this mash-up of "Ticket To Ride" meets "Riverdance" to be a phenomenal blend of musical textures and rhythms... It's quite fascinating. The possibilities are limitless.
Not only is it a meeting of musical genres.. it's also a meeting of cultures and nationalities. I really feel this mash-up says more than meets the eye. The person who put this one together really put a lot of creativity and emotion in it. Rick, first of all, you're very welcome! I think this Remix or better Mash-Up is excellent. But I have to say that it is very very special, like Mash-Up's in general. Mash-Up or Bastard Pop is an own musical genre, where two or more songs are mixed into one new version. Mostly you take the instrumental of one song and add the vocals of another song. The songs that are mixed into one new song should be of different musical styles. By the way the first Mash-Up Single ever is a mix of Herb Alpert and Public Enemy: The Whipped Cream Mixes de.youtube.com/watch?v=J898EhfXy9wConcerning Herb Alpert vs. Public Enemy I prefer this one: By the time I get to Arizona de.youtube.com/watch?v=TMAfKo65nngMy favourite Mash-Up artists are 2 Many DJ's. You should listen to their Mash-Up of Dolly Parton's "9 to 5" and Röyksopps "Eple" for instance. One of the best Mash-Up's ever! www.myspace.com/2manymashupsBut though I love it, I know that this genre is very special and definitely not to everybody's taste. But again, I love the "Ticket to Ride"-Mash-Up and agree to those on You-Tube who found it "mesmerizing".. |
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Post by Rick Henry on May 6, 2008 21:21:01 GMT -5
Interesting though, CG, how much we can find on YouTube. I check it out regularly. That's how I was able to view Karen's wedding live. That was pretty cool. Have you seen that at all? Beaner Oh yes, Beaner - YouTube can make you an addict. There's always something new to find and a lot of interesting stuff. I did not see the complete wedding yet, but I saw the conclusion. It was pretty cool, I agree, but at the same time I felt somehow strange watching it. I found another (home)video of Karen's Birthday in 1973. It felt even more strange to watch this one, because I felt like an intruder or something.. It's a very private situation and I just wonder if Karen and her family would like the thought of strangers watching this tape. Anyways, I watched it and found it captivating. Did you watch it? If not: de.youtube.com/watch?v=DEJnSPjwNvc |
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Post by carpentersgermany on May 7, 2008 7:03:10 GMT -5
Rick and Beaner, first concerning Karen's birthday video: like you I just can't believe how lovely Karen appeared! The whole family seemed just so normal. It was like watching a video of my own family. I also found it quite remarkable that Karen refused to sing. Seems like apart from being the best singer in the world, she was something like the best daughter, sister, niece, friend one could wish for, too  Of course, nobody is perfect and Karen definitely had her difficult sides, too, but this video makes me appreciate her even more. Concerning the Mash-Ups: I absolutely agree on Karen's voice being timeless but I'm not sure about Herb Alpert. Especially regarding the Tijuana Brass Sound that was used in the two PE Mash-Ups. Maybe his later works (I don't know too much of it, but what I know is great) like "Rise", for instance. The Notorious B.I.G. used this song as a base for his 1997 hit "Hypnotize". Funny Rick, that you mentioned a duet of Karen and Mary J. Blige. Listening to the Karen Ella-Medley made me think of a collaboration of Karen and MJB. Their singing-styles and their appearance is pretty contrasting actually, but I think they could sound wonderful together! BTW, I'll see MJB live in concert this month. Since I don't know that much of her music, besides the hit singles, I don't know what to expect really.. But I'm sure it'll be a great show! |
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Post by Rick Henry on May 7, 2008 8:18:22 GMT -5
Rick and Beaner, first concerning Karen's birthday video: like you I just can't believe how lovely Karen appeared! The whole family seemed just so normal. It was like watching a video of my own family. I also found it quite remarkable that Karen refused to sing. Seems like apart from being the best singer in the world, she was something like the best daughter, sister, niece, friend one could wish for, too Of course, nobody is perfect and Karen definitely had her difficult sides, too, but this video makes me appreciate her even more. Concerning the Mash-Ups: I absolutely agree on Karen's voice being timeless but I'm not sure about Herb Alpert. Especially regarding the Tijuana Brass Sound that was used in the two PE Mash-Ups. Maybe his later works (I don't know too much of it, but what I know is great) like "Rise", for instance. The Notorious B.I.G. used this song as a base for his 1997 hit "Hypnotize". Funny Rick, that you mentioned a duet of Karen and Mary J. Blige. Listening to the Karen Ella-Medley made me think of a collaboration of Karen and MJB. Their singing-styles and their appearance is pretty contrasting actually, but I think they could sound wonderful together! BTW, I'll see MJB live in concert this month. Since I don't know that much of her music, besides the hit singles, I don't know what to expect really.. But I'm sure it'll be a great show! Upon a second round of listening I have to agree that maybe Alpert's TJB sounds are a bit dated (you know the first time you hear something there are so many elements of surprise that it sounds great). Although, I will add that Alpert's late 70's and the bulk of his 80's work is quite outstanding and is the music I prefer most from him. My favorite songs by Alpert are "Beyond" (1980), "Rotation" (1979), "Behind The Rain" (this one's mind blowing)(1979), "Red Hot" (1980), "Magic Man" (1981), "Fandango" (1982), "Route 101" (1982), "Blow Your Own Horn" (1983), "Garden Party" (1983), "Romance Dance" (1989), "Jump Street" (1991), "North On North St" (1991), "Side Steppin" (1996), "Passion Dance" (1997), "Slow Train" (1999). Karen, though, definitely a timeless voice. Her voice sounds right at home no matter what the musical background is. That is a testament to a very powerful singer.  |
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Post by carpentersgermany on May 7, 2008 11:38:58 GMT -5
Rick and Beaner, first concerning Karen's birthday video: like you I just can't believe how lovely Karen appeared! The whole family seemed just so normal. It was like watching a video of my own family. I also found it quite remarkable that Karen refused to sing. Seems like apart from being the best singer in the world, she was something like the best daughter, sister, niece, friend one could wish for, too Of course, nobody is perfect and Karen definitely had her difficult sides, too, but this video makes me appreciate her even more. Concerning the Mash-Ups: I absolutely agree on Karen's voice being timeless but I'm not sure about Herb Alpert. Especially regarding the Tijuana Brass Sound that was used in the two PE Mash-Ups. Maybe his later works (I don't know too much of it, but what I know is great) like "Rise", for instance. The Notorious B.I.G. used this song as a base for his 1997 hit "Hypnotize". Funny Rick, that you mentioned a duet of Karen and Mary J. Blige. Listening to the Karen Ella-Medley made me think of a collaboration of Karen and MJB. Their singing-styles and their appearance is pretty contrasting actually, but I think they could sound wonderful together! BTW, I'll see MJB live in concert this month. Since I don't know that much of her music, besides the hit singles, I don't know what to expect really.. But I'm sure it'll be a great show! Upon a second round of listening I have to agree that maybe Alpert's TJB sounds are a bit dated (you know the first time you hear something there are so many elements of surprise that it sounds great). Although, I will add that Alpert's late 70's and the bulk of his 80's work is quite outstanding and is the music I prefer most from him. My favorite songs by Alpert are "Beyond" (1980), "Rotation" (1979), "Behind The Rain" (this one's mind blowing)(1979), "Red Hot" (1980), "Magic Man" (1981), "Fandango" (1982), "Route 101" (1982), "Blow Your Own Horn" (1983), "Garden Party" (1983), "Romance Dance" (1989), "Jump Street" (1991), "North On North St" (1991), "Side Steppin" (1996), "Passion Dance" (1997), "Slow Train" (1999). Karen, though, definitely a timeless voice. Her voice sounds right at home no matter what the musical background is. That is a testament to a very powerful singer. Cool, some new songs, that I'll definitely check out! Wow, what you said about Karen's voice was really beautiful and you're just so right! |
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Post by Rick Henry on May 7, 2008 20:47:06 GMT -5
Upon a second round of listening I have to agree that maybe Alpert's TJB sounds are a bit dated (you know the first time you hear something there are so many elements of surprise that it sounds great). Although, I will add that Alpert's late 70's and the bulk of his 80's work is quite outstanding and is the music I prefer most from him. My favorite songs by Alpert are "Beyond" (1980), "Rotation" (1979), "Behind The Rain" (this one's mind blowing)(1979), "Red Hot" (1980), "Magic Man" (1981), "Fandango" (1982), "Route 101" (1982), "Blow Your Own Horn" (1983), "Garden Party" (1983), "Romance Dance" (1989), "Jump Street" (1991), "North On North St" (1991), "Side Steppin" (1996), "Passion Dance" (1997), "Slow Train" (1999). Karen, though, definitely a timeless voice. Her voice sounds right at home no matter what the musical background is. That is a testament to a very powerful singer. Cool, some new songs, that I'll definitely check out! Wow, what you said about Karen's voice was really beautiful and you're just so right! |
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Post by carpentersgermany on May 8, 2008 16:49:10 GMT -5
Cool, some new songs, that I'll definitely check out! Wow, what you said about Karen's voice was really beautiful and you're just so right! Oh yes! I'm pretty sure Timbaland would have a perfect beat up his sleeve that would please the hip hop kids AND the die-hard Carpenters Fans. Whether you're a Hip Hop Fan or not you just have to admit that Timbaland is a very good producer. His album Shock Value is excellent! 50Cent, The Hives and Elton John on one album - I'd like to see anyone else do that! I saw him live on Justin's Futuresex/Lovesounds-Concert and he was amazing! But regarding the style I think Karen and Pharrell Williams and/or Kanye West would build a perfect match. By the way, what do you, especially Rick as a Chris Martin Fan, think of the song "Homecoming" by Kanye and Chris? I reckon there are not that much Rap Fans among us, but I think this song is just brilliant! The clip is brilliant, too: de.youtube.com/watch?v=-hotjeKvovgLike the song, a homage to Chicago.. |
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Post by Rick Henry on May 8, 2008 20:58:01 GMT -5
Oh yes! I'm pretty sure Timbaland would have a perfect beat up his sleeve that would please the hip hop kids AND the die-hard Carpenters Fans. Whether you're a Hip Hop Fan or not you just have to admit that Timbaland is a very good producer. His album Shock Value is excellent! 50Cent, The Hives and Elton John on one album - I'd like to see anyone else do that! I saw him live on Justin's Futuresex/Lovesounds-Concert and he was amazing! But regarding the style I think Karen and Pharrell Williams and/or Kanye West would build a perfect match. By the way, what do you, especially Rick as a Chris Martin Fan, think of the song "Homecoming" by Kanye and Chris? I reckon there are not that much Rap Fans among us, but I think this song is just brilliant! The clip is brilliant, too: de.youtube.com/watch?v=-hotjeKvovgLike the song, a homage to Chicago.. |
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