Twisted Logic #14

[Rick Henry]

Guess the aritst

Guess the song

What's the Carpenters/Karen/Richard Connection?

Here are the clues:

Artist: first name - sister of Amalthea last name - northwest England, east of Hartford Connecticut , southeast New Hampshire

Song: Gossip

[wisejester7]

Artist: Melissa Manchester
Song: You Should Hear How She Talks About You
Connection:

[Rick Henry]

Good work WJ7... you are correct on both accounts.

Now for the connection... that's the tough part.

[DJLOVETRAIN]

Is Burt Bacharach the correct connection or could Carole B Sayer be?

[Rick Henry]

Neither Carole Bayer Sager nor Burt Bacharach are connected with this song.

Keep on trying.

[DJLOVETRAIN]

So the connection has to do with the song? or Artist?

[Rick Henry]

Here's one more clue -

Now any person who is familiar with Carpenters entire output of music Iincluding popular album tracks) should know the connection with Melissa Manchester's "You Should Heare How She Talks About You".

[wisejester7]

"You Should Hear How She Talks About You" lyrically is VERY similar to "Baby It's You" lyrics "You Should Hear What They Say About You".

I'm still missing the connection, but I haven't given up!

;-)wj7

[wisejester7]

The lyricist was Mack David, brother to Hal David who worked with B.Bacharach on numerous songs. Alas, Rick said BBacharach is not the connection.

[GoodOldDreams]

Mack David co-wrote "Baby It's You" with Barney Williams and Burt Bacharach, a 1961 hit for the Shirelles and a great opening track on the flip side of the Carpenters' second album.

An interesting thing about Mack is that he tried to convince his younger brother Hal NOT to become a songwriter and choose a more stable profession. However, Mack failed to follow his own advice, and instead of following a career in law, he began writing songs on Tin Pan Alley. Mack David was inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame in 1975.

[Rick Henry]

Here's one more clue for the Carpenters/Karen/Richard connection to "You Should Hear How She Talks About You".

If you know all of Carpenters' music from the first to the last song recorded - you should be able to figure out the connection.

[YesterdayOnceMore]

Melissa Manchester and Carpenters both had their last top "40" hit in the year You Should Hear How She Talks About You was released.

Connection there?

Tim

[Rick Henry]

yesterdayoncemore said:

Melissa Manchester and Carpenters both had their last top "40" hit in the year You Should Hear How She Talks About You was released.

Connection there?

Tim

Carpenters' last top 40 hit was in 1981 while Melissa manchester's was in 1982 - no connection. Keep on trying.

[DJLOVETRAIN]

ALL of the Carpenter Songs won a Grammy just like ALL of Melissa's Did,could that be a connection? how bout ALL the songs by the Carpenters and Miss Manchester hit the Top 40? I'm trying too! Dr Johnny P LoveTrain

[GoodOldDreams]

"You Should Hear How She Talks About You" was written by Tom Snow and Dean Pitchford.

Dean Pitchford co-wrote "Now" with Roger Nichols (the latter of whom co-wrote many songs with Paul Williams in many earlier outstanding Carpenters hits and tracks —"We've Only Just Begun", "Rainy Days and Mondays", "Let Me Be the One", "I Won't Last a Day without You", etc.).

"Now" was on the "Voice of the Heart" album and had the sad distinction of being the last song recorded by Karen.

[Rick Henry]

goodolddreams said:

"You Should Hear How She Talks About You" was written by Tom Snow and Dean Pitchford, the latter of whom co-wrote "Now" with Roger Nichols. "Now" was on the "Voice of th Heart" album and has the sad distinction of being the last song recorded by Karen.

You are right on all accounts Mr. Dreams. Dean Pitchford was a co-writer of both "You Should Hear How She Talks About You" and the Carpenters' shimmering "Now".

[YesterdayOnceMore]

Oofah! Am I ever glad we have some logical left-brainers on this forum. As you can tell, this is NOT my forte! Great job Dreams, wj7, and all of you with "logical minds." I enjoy reading through the posts, and learn something every single time.

On to the next one....I'll sit back and learn...

KUDOS DREAMS!!

Tim