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Post by Christian on Sept 28, 2003 7:29:56 GMT -5
Hi!
There`s been something I have been wondering about for some time now and I was hoping someone out there could help me. When singles were released in the 70`s I have understood that sometimes they got plain sleeves, other times they got pic.sleeves.
When you purchased a single, did you have to more to get a pic.sleeve or was it the same price? And why were the same single released both with and without a pic.sleeve? And how much was a single and album in the 70`s?
I also wonder about the single Goofus. It was not very well known and I wonder how well it did on the charts?
And do you think it was a logic song to release as a single from Hush album?
I don`t think it was...
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Post by Rick Henry on Sept 28, 2003 11:55:34 GMT -5
Hi! There`s been something I have been wondering about for some time now and I was hoping someone out there could help me. When singles were released in the 70`s I have understood that sometimes they got plain sleeves, other times they got pic.sleeves. When you purchased a single, did you have to more to get a pic.sleeve or was it the same price? And why were the same single released both with and without a pic.sleeve? And how much was a single and album in the 70`s? I also wonder about the single Goofus. It was not very well known and I wonder how well it did on the charts? And do you think it was a logic song to release as a single from Hush album? I don`t think it was... Pic sleeves and plain sleeves cost the same price. Alot of times popularity would determine whether or not the record company would put out the money for a picture sleeve. Or if it was something they really wanted to promote they'd put out a pic sleeve. sometimes a single would start out without a pic sleeve, then it would gain popularity and all of a sudden it has a pic sleeve. Or sometimes a single starts out with a pic sleeve and then as it's going down the charts after a few months it is only with plain sleeve. Singles in the early 70's cost between $0.39 to $0.49 in the mid to late 70's $0.59 to $0.89 Albums early 70's $3.99 to 4.99, mid 70's $4.99 to $5.99, late 70's $5.99 to $7.99 double albums in mid to late 70's ranged form $7.99 to $9.99. Beleive it or not at the time "Goofus" was a logical choice for release as a single. When "A Kind Of Hush" was released it received quite a bit of positive response from fans and was played on the radio occassionally before it was a single. In retrospect though other songs like "Can't Smile Without You" would have been better for single release. But it was "Goofus" which received the major response from fans. |
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Post by Moe on Oct 25, 2003 20:33:51 GMT -5
I really didn't start buying singles until the later part of the 70's and they were usually $0.99 (cents). Tax, at the time, was only 4 cents, so I took a dollar and a nickel to buy one and had a couple of pennies left! In the 80's, I remember paying as much at $1.69 for a single. The cassette singles came out a few years later and they started at $1.99 to $2.49 and went up from there.
I always prefered the singles with picture sleeves. Sometimes you got a choice and other times you didn't. If they did have a good picture, I would buy the single even though I already had the album. I am not sure about the decision for picture or not, but the reasons in the previous post sound good to me.
Some artists, like the Carpenters, usually had an old or already released song for the second side of the record. I loved Sheena Easton through out the 80's and she was great in the promotion of singles. She would usually have a picture sleeve and/or would include an unrealeased track on the flip side. I would end up with the LP and 2 singles with each of her releases. Of course, when 12 inch singles came out a few years later, I would then just pick that one up because in addition to a new and extended remix or 2 or 3, it usually had the bonus song included. Also, the picture would then be big like the album cover. The singles "Devil in a fast car," "Sugar Walls," and "Jimmy Mack" bring back some good memories! (cold shower time!) Why I am off on this subject? I have no idea....
Goofus...there is an interesting release. This one escapes me. I didn't like it when the album was released and still don't think much of it 25+ years later. Their version of "Can't Smile" doesn't strike me as a single either. I've always loved "You" and thought that would have been a great 3rd release from the album. "..you are my heart and my sould, my inspiration, just like the old love song goes..." Love that line! Who knows how things would have turned out? Hindsight is 20/20...
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Post by Rick Henry on Oct 25, 2003 21:44:19 GMT -5
Here is a picture of the single "Goofus".  "Goofus" reached something like #56 on the charts and the b-side was "Boat To Sail". |
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Post by smoothie2 on Oct 25, 2003 23:12:55 GMT -5
:)That's interesting to know about the picture sleeves. On some of my big albums, the sleeves would soon wear out and split, so on some of them, they are still encased in just very make-shift (pieced together awkwardly) sleeves I made out of typing paper. Some albums like I think most of the Carps. were not just thin paper, but just like the album cover itself ..good construction with words to the songs on them which I always appreciated. I love to sing and learn the songs.
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Post by smoothie2 on Oct 25, 2003 23:20:48 GMT -5
I also recall buying several singles which I still have, but I don't think I bought of the Carps. singles because I knew I would want to buy the whole album if I could muster up the money for them and so I usually did.
There was and still may be a company called American Pie which up until a yr. or more ago, still sold singles of records by just about anyone you could think of. They also sold cassettes at one time, but the last time I checked, they said they only sell the singles.
"all my best memories come back clearly to me..some can even make me cry..just like before ..it's yesterday once more..etc"
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Post by smoothie2 on Oct 25, 2003 23:25:01 GMT -5
"Goofus" is on the album "Kind of Hush" and that's the first time I recall hearing it. But the 70's were some time back..and I usually always heard all the songs that were played. It's an ok fun song..not one of my faves though.
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Post by Federico Cruz on Oct 26, 2003 8:33:45 GMT -5
Beleive it or not at the time "Goofus" was a logical choice for release as a single. When "A Kind Of Hush" was released it received quite a bit of positive response from fans and was played on the radio occassionally before it was a single. In retrospect though other songs like "Can't Smile Without You" would have been better for single release. But it was "Goofus" which received the major response from fans. I don't agree with you, Rick. Goofus wasn't a logical choice and was their greatest fall in the charts. Here in Dominican Republic, A Kind Of Hush and I Need To Be In Love got a good airplay in the radio. Can't Smile was the flip side of Calling Occupants and nothing happened because Barry Manilow's version was better than Carpenters version. My choice for single, instead of Goofus, would be You. |
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