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Post by smoothie2 on Oct 24, 2006 23:15:53 GMT -5
hi Tim...I don't know what post it was in recent days,
but you referred to I think a movie of some sort...and you stated it was a "sleeper"...
I have heard the word in the context that some ball team was going to play another one and the coach said "oh, we play that place, that game will be a sleeper"
I don't know whether that meant that that team would be easy to
beat or that they would be tough to beat.
and so....? 
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Post by wisejester7 on Oct 25, 2006 10:58:23 GMT -5
A sleeper can be something or someone that becomes unexpectedly successful or important after a period of being unnoticed, ignored, or considered unpromising or a failure.
A sleeper is not quickly recognized for it's value.
So a movie that was a 'sleeper' is a movie that is surprisingly good or has an appeal that, at first, went without acknowledgment
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Post by smoothie2 on Oct 25, 2006 23:43:58 GMT -5
A sleeper can be something or someone that becomes unexpectedly successful or important after a period of being unnoticed, ignored, or considered unpromising or a failure. A sleeper is not quickly recognized for it's value. So a movie that was a 'sleeper' is a movie that is surprisingly good or has an appeal that, at first, went without acknowledgment ???thanks for the info. wisejester..... |
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Post by YesterdayOnceMore on Oct 26, 2006 14:21:35 GMT -5
 Perfect definition, WJ7! Thank you for providing that. Katt, I would think with regard to the ball game the "sleeper" might be referring to the game being a "boring" game....usually when one makes a reference like that to a sports event, it simply means it won't be very exciting. So apparently, the phrase I chose to use has several different meanings, depending upon what it's applied to. Therefore, I would think what this person was referring to was....the team would be "easy as pie" to beat!!! No contest. Great question - I'd never thought about it, but you brought up a great thought to ponder. I wish you all the best from here in my corner, Tim 
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Post by wisejester7 on Oct 26, 2006 16:15:03 GMT -5
Perfect definition, WJ7! Thank you for providing that. Katt, I would think with regard to the ball game the "sleeper" might be referring to the game being a "boring" game....usually when one makes a reference like that to a sports event, it simply means it won't be very exciting. So apparently, the phrase I chose to use has several different meanings, depending upon what it's applied to. Great question - I'd never thought about it, but you brought up a great thought to ponder. I wish you all the best from here in my corner, Tim Yes, I agree. A sporting event that is a 'sleeper' could be considered a real snooze fest! Funny how, like many of our words, it is possible to have opposite meanings from one word. |
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Post by ps11932 on Oct 27, 2006 16:39:17 GMT -5
It was an excellent definition/description of sleeper given by WJ7. As far as the game, a sleeper could be an uneventful and unexciting contest as described; at times the term sleeper (for a team) could include many of the same qualities given in WJ's description. At times a coach may refer to a game or another team as a sleeper if he or she feels that the players aren't taking the preparation seriously enough; they might be in for a bigger battle than they think. I don't know which (if any) sports you follow but if, for instance, it is ice hockey, a team like the Buffalo Sabres, who are off to a great start, might be over-confident before a game against, say, the Philadelphia Flyers, who aren't doing so well. But Philly has talent and, as is the case with professionals in any field, the burning desire to requite themselves well. So Buffalo may be in for a surprise. Hope this is relevant and expands things a little.
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Post by YesterdayOnceMore on Oct 27, 2006 16:49:43 GMT -5
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Post by wisejester7 on Oct 27, 2006 16:55:41 GMT -5
It was an excellent definition/description of sleeper given by WJ7. As far as the game, a sleeper could be an uneventful and unexciting contest as described; at times the term sleeper (for a team) could include many of the same qualities given in WJ's description. At times a coach may refer to a game or another team as a sleeper if he or she feels that the players aren't taking the preparation seriously enough; they might be in for a bigger battle than they think. I don't know which (if any) sports you follow but if, for instance, it is ice hockey, a team like the Buffalo Sabres, who are off to a great start, might be over-confident before a game against, say, the Philadelphia Flyers, who aren't doing so well. But Philly has talent and, as is the case with professionals in any field, the burning desire to requite themselves well. So Buffalo may be in for a surprise. Hope this is relevant and expands things a little. You're right, ps11932. This is yet another use of the term 'sleeper'. My first hand (sort of...I was just an observer, not a player ;-)) experience of players under estimating another team was of college conference teams...the Big Ten, in particular. It didn't matter where a team stood in rankings (high or low), if they came up against certain teams, then all bets were off on the out come of the game. This was especially true of in state rivals Indiana University and Purdue University. |
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Post by ps11932 on Oct 28, 2006 15:55:41 GMT -5
Thanks, everyone- this has been a fun discussion. WJ7, you must have some inner tension there, being an alumnus of Purdue but having family at IU. And in Indiana, high school ball is real big, too!
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Post by wisejester7 on Oct 28, 2006 22:09:42 GMT -5
Thanks, everyone- this has been a fun discussion. WJ7, you must have some inner tension there, being an alumnus of Purdue but having family at IU. And in Indiana, high school ball is real big, too! It's a bit different, O. E.! I never thought I would have to support and cheer for IU. ;-) When it comes to competition between the 2...well, I still root for PU...otherwise I'll cheer IU on. |
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Post by smoothie2 on Oct 28, 2006 23:50:15 GMT -5
   Perfect definition, WJ7! Thank you for providing that. Katt, I would think with regard to the ball game the "sleeper" might be referring to the game being a "boring" game....usually when one makes a reference like that to a sports event, it simply means it won't be very exciting. So apparently, the phrase I chose to use has several different meanings, depending upon what it's applied to. Therefore, I would think what this person was referring to was....the team would be "easy as pie" to beat!!! No contest. Great question - I'd never thought about it, but you brought up a great thought to ponder. I wish you all the best from here in my corner, Tim
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Post by smoothie2 on Oct 29, 2006 0:00:52 GMT -5
 It was an excellent definition/description of sleeper given by WJ7. As far as the game, a sleeper could be an uneventful and unexciting contest as described; at times the term sleeper (for a team) could include many of the same qualities given in WJ's description. At times a coach may refer to a game or another team as a sleeper if he or she feels that the players aren't taking the preparation seriously enough; they might be in for a bigger battle than they think. I don't know which (if any) sports you follow but if, for instance, it is ice hockey, a team like the Buffalo Sabres, who are off to a great start, might be over-confident before a game against, say, the Philadelphia Flyers, who aren't doing so well. But Philly has talent and, as is the case with professionals in any field, the burning desire to requite themselves well. So Buffalo may be in for a surprise. Hope this is relevant and expands things a little.
Allen movie (not a fan of his, didn't see it)
SLEEPER: most often I guess someone
who really knows how to SNOOZE.....ha..
SLEEPER: Wow! I surely did not know this word could have
so many meanings!... my-o-my!
Not much of a sports fan, but I see what you mean ps11932..
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Post by GoodOldDreams on Oct 29, 2006 0:49:47 GMT -5
It was an excellent definition/description of sleeper given by WJ7. As far as the game, a sleeper could be an uneventful and unexciting contest as described; at times the term sleeper (for a team) could include many of the same qualities given in WJ's description. At times a coach may refer to a game or another team as a sleeper if he or she feels that the players aren't taking the preparation seriously enough; they might be in for a bigger battle than they think. I don't know which (if any) sports you follow but if, for instance, it is ice hockey, a team like the Buffalo Sabres, who are off to a great start, might be over-confident before a game against, say, the Philadelphia Flyers, who aren't doing so well. But Philly has talent and, as is the case with professionals in any field, the burning desire to requite themselves well. So Buffalo may be in for a surprise. Hope this is relevant and expands things a little.
Allen movie (not a fan of his, didn't see it)
SLEEPER: most often I guess someone
who really knows how to SNOOZE.....ha..
SLEEPER: Wow! I surely did not know this word could have
so many meanings!... my-o-my!
Not much of a sports fan, but I see what you mean ps11932.. Perfect definition, WJ7! Thank you for providing that. Katt, I would think with regard to the ball game the "sleeper" might be referring to the game being a "boring" game....usually when one makes a reference like that to a sports event, it simply means it won't be very exciting. So apparently, the phrase I chose to use has several different meanings, depending upon what it's applied to. Great question - I'd never thought about it, but you brought up a great thought to ponder. I wish you all the best from here in my corner, Tim Yes, I agree. A sporting event that is a 'sleeper' could be considered a real snooze fest! Funny how, like many of our words, it is possible to have opposite meanings from one word. [yellow] Yeah, the actual meaning depends on the context and how its is being said. Like "cool" and "hot", and "bad" and "good" being used to mean the opposite in hipster lingo or sarcastic/ironic banter rather than the literal meanings.[/yellow] |
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Post by wisejester7 on Oct 29, 2006 9:55:40 GMT -5
Speaking of sleeper...this has been a fun little topic that just ...'took off'! ;-)
I love how everyone chimes in with their opinions and knowledge and experiences. It's often the small things that provide the 'glue' of family.
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Post by YesterdayOnceMore on Oct 29, 2006 13:58:36 GMT -5
Speaking of sleeper...this has been a fun little topic that just ...'took off'! ;-) I love how everyone chimes in with their opinions and knowledge and experiences. It's often the small things that provide the 'glue' of family. I couldn't agree with you more wj7 - just couldn't agree any more. This is great. Love it. T-man |
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