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Post by Rick Henry on Jan 2, 2008 21:41:48 GMT -5
 Okay, I know this may be a tough one... but can any of you remember the first time you saw a picture of Karen or Karen and Richard in the newspaper or in a magazine? I first saw them in 1973 in the Orange County Register (our local newspaper). It was an short article mentioning their upcoming concert dates and something about their softball tournament. the picture they used for the article was the one of Karen and Richard in the park. It similar to the picture they used for the picture sleeve of "Sing". I have the pic... once I find it I'll post it here. |
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Post by smoothie2 on Jan 3, 2008 0:09:37 GMT -5
 interesting topic....it would indeed be super if you could post that article/pic Rick.... I may have seen their pic. in some movie mag. or etc. to begin with way back when, but since I'm not sure on that one, I'll just go with seeing them on the cover of the Close to You record, my first of their records I owned, and may have been my very first album of any kind in 1970 or '71. I'm sure I had seen them on tv and certainly heard them on the radio prior to that, but there's a lot to be said still for those big old record covers. I surely still have that album along with a good many of their others. Even though Richard wasn't happy with many of their photos back then, it didn't matter a lot to us fans as you know. The Close to You album with them sitting on some rocks near the lake shore or beach, with Karen in her long white dress , white sandals and wonderful smile and I like Richard's pic. too.
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Post by Rick Henry on Jan 3, 2008 10:01:05 GMT -5
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Post by beaner on Jan 3, 2008 12:19:45 GMT -5
Well, if it needs to be a magazine or newspaper only, I would have to say my local Syracuse newspaper from 1973. I first saw the Carpenters in Syracuse, NY in 1973 and the next day I was sure to buy the newspaper to read about the concerts that always took place at the War Memorial there.
As far as a mazagine goes, it would either be their program from that concert OR probably a magazine like Tiger Beat where there may have been a small pic of them. I do remember them from many TV guides too with all their tv specials.
One interesting note: When I was about 15 or 16, I was in Atlantic City with my Mom and a couple of my aunts and as we left the front of one of the casinos to go on to another, I looked down towards the ground saw a piece of paper about 4x4 in size. It was face down so I had NO idea what it was and it could only have been meant for me to pick it up. When I did and turned it over, it was the cover picture from an 8-track tape that had fallen off apparently. It was from the Close To You 8-track. I still have that till today in my scrapbook. It was raining at the time too so it was a bit wilted and faded but something I just HAD to hang on to.
Just thought I'd pass that bit of information on. Cool huh???
Beaner
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Post by YesterdayOnceMore on Jan 3, 2008 20:35:59 GMT -5
Interesting....as of this moment, I absolutely have NO MEMORY of this. I remember seeing them in magazines, but mostly for me it was television, and / or album/45rpm record covers. I can't begin to remember back that far, I'm afraid, to recall my first magazine or newspaper, but I certainly applaud those of you who can! |
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Post by smoothie2 on Jan 4, 2008 0:34:17 GMT -5
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Post by Rick Henry on Jan 4, 2008 11:10:02 GMT -5
Well, if it needs to be a magazine or newspaper only, I would have to say my local Syracuse newspaper from 1973. I first saw the Carpenters in Syracuse, NY in 1973 and the next day I was sure to buy the newspaper to read about the concerts that always took place at the War Memorial there. As far as a mazagine goes, it would either be their program from that concert OR probably a magazine like Tiger Beat where there may have been a small pic of them. I do remember them from many TV guides too with all their tv specials. One interesting note: When I was about 15 or 16, I was in Atlantic City with my Mom and a couple of my aunts and as we left the front of one of the casinos to go on to another, I looked down towards the ground saw a piece of paper about 4x4 in size. It was face down so I had NO idea what it was and it could only have been meant for me to pick it up. When I did and turned it over, it was the cover picture from an 8-track tape that had fallen off apparently. It was from the Close To You 8-track. I still have that till today in my scrapbook. It was raining at the time too so it was a bit wilted and faded but something I just HAD to hang on to. Just thought I'd pass that bit of information on. Cool huh??? Beaner
That is a pretty interesting story... speaking of 8-track tapes I had several Carpenters albums on 8-track... let's see if I can remember them all...
On 8-track... "Ticket To Ride", "Close To You", "A Song For You", "Now And Then", "Singles 1969-1973" and "Horizon"
They all ended up falling apart... as 8-tracks were very low quality and I ended up throwing them all away. Though for some reason I still have the "Now And Then" 8-track tape... it's interesting to pull it out and take a look at it every now and then (catch the pun there).
Other 8-tracks I owned... Three Dog Night - "Joy To The World (Greatest Hits)", Creedence Clearwater Revival - "Bayou Country", "Cosmos Factory" and "Chronicles", Santana - "Abraxas", Rod Stewart - "Every Picture Tells A Story", James Taylor - "Sweet Baby James" and "Blood Sweat And Tears - "Blood Sweat and Tears 3"... ahhh I just loved early 70's music so much.
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Post by sunnybunny on Jan 4, 2008 14:20:34 GMT -5
I found a Carpenters 8 track at a thrift store one day.That place was a gold mine of Carpenters things but sadly a few months ago it burnt down.
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Post by Rick Henry on Jan 5, 2008 0:20:25 GMT -5
I found a Carpenters 8 track at a thrift store one day.That place was a gold mine of Carpenters things but sadly a few months ago it burnt down. |
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Post by sunnybunny on Jan 5, 2008 0:40:10 GMT -5
I can't remember the EXACT things I got there but I do remember get a Sandy 7" single and a Carpenters 8-track.
Here are the tracks on it:
Program 1:
Close To You
For All We Know
Mr.Gruder
Program 2:
Maybe It's You
Sometimes
Another Song
Program 3:
Help
One Love
Cresent Moon
Program 4:
Rainy Days and Monday
We've Only Just Begun
Superstar
Okay maybe it wasn't a gold mine gold mine but it had tons of stuff.Then there is this one place maybe a hour from where I live there is this thrift store and it has quite of few Carpenters things.Plus if there is this one man that if he is at the cash register at the time I go I can get a discount.Let's just say I got to his soft spot by saying that I liked Olivia Newton-John and he was amazed that someone my age liked that kind of music and since then he gives me discounts.
This other place is mainly a thrift store where I buy my books because I love those really old ones that came out in like the 70s plus there is also a cd place not far from there.Anyway if found both the Old-Fashioned Christmas record and cassette.I didn't get them both at the same time (that would have been cool) but still both are in great shape.I also like that place because I can get tons of things for nothing at all.
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Post by Rick Henry on Jan 5, 2008 1:12:49 GMT -5
Great stuff Sunnybunny... I have a near mint copy of "An Old Fashioned Christmas" on vinyl and have been offered $20.00 for it. I'll hold on to it because that one is a collector's item with the original pink album cover on it with a value of about $30.00. I also have a copy of the Karen Carpenter solo CD single of "If I Had You" this has a value of about $100.00 - it's a valuable collector's item. The cassette single of Karen's solo "If I Had You" with "Uninvited Guest" as the b-side is worth around $25.00... I had a copy of that but sold it about ten years ago for only $5.00... I wish I would have held onto it. Most of the Carpenters' original vinyl albums and singles aren't really worth much... maybe three to five dollars (which is what most of what came out in the 60's, 70's and 80's is worth... but there are specific items which are worth some good money. Such as the Quadrophonic releases of their albums are all worth about $40.00. All their albums from "Close To You in 1970 to "Horizon" in 1975 were released in Quadrophonic. I have a near mint copy of "Horizon" and have been offered $50.00 for it... but I will not sell it. There is a limited edition of "Singles 1969-1973 on red vinyl floating around... this is very rare and has a value of up to $350.00... wish I could find one of those. The original release of "Offering" with the groovy "sunflower" cover has a worth of around $75.00-$80.00 in mint condition. The 7" vinyl single of "Your Baby Doesn't Love You Anymore" has a value of $10.00 - this one was released as a single in 1984 but flopped quite badly... subsequently almost none were sold so it is very rare. The picture sleeve single of "Santa Claus Is Coming To Town" (1974) is worth about $15.00 The picture sleeve single of "Merry Christmas Darling" (1970) is also worth about $15.00 And of course the Magic Lamp release of Karen's solo "Looking For Love" / "I'll Be Yours" has a value of around $2,000.00 in near mint condition. I'll come back with a few more collectible Carpenters items. |
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Post by sunnybunny on Jan 5, 2008 10:03:12 GMT -5
Cool.I found a cassette of Karen's solo album on Ebay.The person had to list it twice both times I'd put it on watch and then forget about it.Supprisingly it went for $10.Then I have a collection picture sleeves that I bought from someone on Ebay.Sure they have writing on them put for $3 I had to have it.Plus I look at it being you can see most of the picture sleeve it just has someone's name written on it.I get 7" singles at thrift stores like that all the time.
I also have a Voice of The Heart songbook.My dog ate a chunk out of the back so it probably isn't worth that much.But luckily it is still readible.She only ate the back cover and a little bit of Look to Your Dreams.I got the songbook for $10.I was shocked it went that price.I bet the seller was really dissappointed by that one with it going so low.I also have the Voice of the Heart cassette,record,and cd.
I'm looking for the Offering record.Weird I kept on telling myself that whenever I get enough money to buy one I will.Now I have the money and I can't find it.I have the Ticket to Ride album at a thrift store which surprised me.Only about 2 or 3 Carpenters records I had to order of Ebay.I have:
Now and Then (found at a thrift store)
Close To You (found at a thrift store)
Passage (found at a thrift store)
Carpenters (found at a thrift store)
A Song For You (found at a thrift store)
Ticket to Ride (found at a thrift store)
both of the Singles that they had out (found both at a used bookstore)
Voice of the Heart (bought off of Ebay)
Horizon (bought off of Ebay)
Kind of Hush (bought off of Ebay)
Christmas Portrait (bought off of Ebay)
An Old-Fashioned Chrismas (found at a thrift store)
Where I live going by the thrift stores a lot of the people must have been Carpenters fans at one time.
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Post by Rick Henry on Jan 5, 2008 11:38:59 GMT -5
Good stuff Sunnybunny... the cassettes really don't have any value at all... the only reason the cassette of the single "If I Had You" has any value is because it was a limited release. Any Carpenters cassette is only worth about $4.00 and no more. All the song books (except those currently on the market) are worth a good amount of money... but again should be in near mint condition. The songbooks for "Close To You/Ticket To Ride" and "Horizon" are especially valuable. The "Horizon" songbook was made of high quality paper and featured some very nice photographs which helped to add to the value... both books are worth about $35.00 each in mint condition. The $10.00 you paid for the "Voice Of The Heart" songbook is about right... for some reason "Voice Of The Heart" never accumulated much collector's value. A mint copy of "Voice Of The Heart" on vinyl album is worth about $1.00, same with "Made In America". All the albums you mentioned you should have spent no more than $3.00 each ... anymore would be a rip off (except "An Old Fashioned Christmas" - that one is worth around $20.00 in near mint condition). The picture sleeve singles are all also worth about $3.00 each... but if the sleeves have writing on them then they are worth only about 50 cents. now vinyl copies of the compilation collection of "Lovelines" is worth about $5.00 in near mint condition only because when that was released less and less vinyl albums were being released and going more toward CD's... so a vinyl copy is somewhat rare... but "Lovelines" is not a much sought after Carpenters item so the value is not very high. Now if you can find a vinyl copy of "Interpretations" or Karen's solo album than let's speak some good money... these are both very rare on vinyl and in the case of Karen's solo album it is highly sought after which really increases it's value... maybe about $20.00 for "Interpretations" and around $50.00 for KC solo. There's a picture sleeve release of "Honolulu City Lights" with "I Just Fall In Love Again" on the b-side which has a near mint value of $15.00. Also a picture sleeve release (from 1980) of the long version of "Calling Occupants..." with "Don't Cry for Me Argentina" on the b-side... this has a near mint value of $20.00. |
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Post by GoodOldDreams on Jan 5, 2008 19:39:01 GMT -5
The first image I have ever seen of the Carpenters must have been a small B&W ad for the "Close to You" album in the local newspaper. I was surprised to see how young Karen looked compared to how mature and sophisticated she sounded on the radio. I liked the album cover and bought the record even though I didn't own a record player at the time as a budding teenager. I recall reading a favorable music review in the local newspaper entitled "Those Gentle Carpenters," which was accompanied by a sunny, backlit picture of them from the "Ticket to Ride" photo session and another article in that paper months later which was accompanied by an illustration based on the following picture, apparently from the photo shoot for the self-titled "Carpenters" album. The first time I saw the Carpenters in action was on a TV special of Olympic Gold Medalist figure skater Peggy Fleming in Sun Valley, where they performed "Help" on stage and Peggy skated in a feathered bird costume to the tune of "Close to You." |
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Post by wisejester7 on Jan 5, 2008 22:05:54 GMT -5
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Post by Rick Henry on Jan 5, 2008 22:17:47 GMT -5
The first image I have ever seen of the Carpenters must have been a small B&W ad for the "Close to You" album in the local newspaper. I was surprised to see how young Karen looked compared to how mature and sophisticated she sounded on the radio. I liked the album cover and bought the record even though I didn't own a record player at the time as a budding teenager. I recall reading a favorable music review in the local newspaper entitled "Those Gentle Carpenters," which was accompanied by a sunny, backlit picture of them from the "Ticket to Ride" photo session and another article in that paper months later which was accompanied by an illustration based on the following picture, apparently from the photo shoot for the self-titled "Carpenters" album. The first time I saw the Carpenters in action was on a TV special of Olympic Gold Medalist figure skater Peggy Fleming in Sun Valley, where they performed "Help" on stage and Peggy skated in a feathered bird costume to the tune of "Close to You." This is very interesting... I remember reading somewhere about the Peggy Fleming sprcial. I would love to see fottage of that program. Carpenters made quite a few television appearances in 1970 and 71... of course they continued to make appearances throughout their entire career... but it seems in those first few years they were n a special or some sort of program about twice a month. One of my favorites was the Jerry Dunphy Show. |
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Indeed a great pic. of R. and K. Rick....thanks for posting that...
