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Post by wisejester7 on Jan 15, 2007 11:49:14 GMT -5
Hmm ... the connection has to do with the song "Evergreen" and not the artist. Could the connection have links to the awards given (Grammy, etc.)?
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Post by Rick Henry on Jan 15, 2007 21:53:38 GMT -5
Hmm ... the connection has to do with the song "Evergreen" and not the artist. Could the connection have links to the awards given (Grammy, etc.)? BINGO! You're on the right track.
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Post by wisejester7 on Jan 15, 2007 23:05:07 GMT -5
Here are some "Evergreen" facts:
Grammy (1977) Song of the Year - "Evergreen" Golden Globe Award (1976) Best Original Song - "Evergreen (from A Star is Born)" Oscar (1976) Best Original Song - "Evergreen (from A Star is Born)"
Paul Williams, Kenny Loggins, Leon Russell and others worked with Streisand on one of the most popular song scores ever, topped by the Streisand/Williams Evergreen.
Although I've found these tidbits and another on Paul Williams sometimes partner, Kenny Ascher, as working on the score for the movie "A Star Is Born" , I'm only finding "Evergreen" links to Babs and Paul Williams (other than the Phil Ramone link I shared earlier).
I still can't find the Carpenters/Karen/Richard connection.
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Post by GoodOldDreams on Jan 15, 2007 23:58:09 GMT -5
The scenes between the lead characters that Streisand and Kris Kristofferson played in the movie "A Star is Born" were adapted from the real-life meeting between Streisand and singer/songwriter Leon Russell, who is no stranger to the Carpenters with songs like "Superstar", "This Masquerade" and "A Song for You." Russell encouraged Streisand when he heard her diddling around on the piano with her "classical-sounding" composition (as I mentioned in a previous post in this thread), which evolved into the music for "Evergreen." When they first met, Russell improvised and sang counterpoint to Streisand's compositions, and this moment was dramatized in the song "Lost Inside of You" between Kristofferson and Streisand.
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Post by Rick Henry on Jan 16, 2007 10:20:28 GMT -5
Here's one more clue as to the mystery connection with "Evergreen".
"Evergreen" has something in common with one particular Carpenters song. Though, "Evergreen" took it one step further. This is a Carpenters song which most people would generally not think of when thinking of the song "Evergreen" - and beyond this one thing in common I don't think the two songs have anything else in common.
If this isn't solved I will come back this evening to reveal the answer.
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Post by wisejester7 on Jan 16, 2007 11:08:04 GMT -5
Many of the Carpenters 'tunes' have a classical bent to them. I'm sure this is due to R and K listening to a wide variety of music while growing up. Also, R studied some classical works. The 'classic' themed stylings/influences can be found everwhere in the C's music ... even the tongue in cheek "Intermission".
If the connection has to do with the 'classic' style of "Evergreen", then I would choose "Heather" as the C's counterpoint.
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Post by Rick Henry on Jan 17, 2007 0:02:45 GMT -5
The Carpenters song which is linked to "Evergreen" is 1977's "Calling Occupants Of Interplanetary Craft".
The thing both songs have in common is they were both nominated for the 1977 Best Arrangement Accompanying Vocalist(s) Grammy Award. "Evergreen" took the prize.
"Calling Occupants..." arrangement was composed by Richard Carpenter. This was Richard's fifth Grammy nomination for his musical arrangements - this is quite a great feat - not many arrangers have been nominated as many times as he has. Sad thing is - none of his arrangements took the big prize home. Which is okay - as you really can't measure great music by the awards it's won.
The arrangement for "Evergreen" was composed by Ian Freebairn-Smith. Ian has had a long and eclectic career in the world of music, from classical to popular, jazz, choral music, and new music. Ian has extensive experience as a composer and conductor in film and TV, and is a Grammy Award-winning arranger. He continues his career as a composer, both in film and for the concert hall, and as a performer, singing with the Doc Severinson Big Band and working steadily in the motion picture industry as a session vocalist. He has worked with artists as diverse as Crosby Stills nash and Young, Randy Crawford, Chad and Jeremy and Phil Ochs. he's also composed and/or arranged music for the TV shows Magnum P.I. and Airwolf and the movies The End and The Muppet Movie. Currently he's a successful disc jockey at the classical music radio station KCSN 88.5 FM at Cal State University Northridge.
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