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Post by Rick Henry on Jan 7, 2007 11:49:11 GMT -5
 Difficulty Level: 3-Stars
This one is somewhat easy though it does have two Carpenters connections. One connection is very easy - so it's the second connection that we're really looking for here. (There may possibly be more than two connections).
Here are the clues:
Artist: Brooklyn
Song: Perenially visculent |
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Post by wisejester7 on Jan 8, 2007 10:43:25 GMT -5
Wild Guess ... is Barry Manilow the artist?
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Post by wisejester7 on Jan 8, 2007 18:27:22 GMT -5
If it is Barry Manilow, then the connections could involve :
a) Barry M. was Bette Midler's musical associate in the early / mid 70's
... and Bette was the one singing "Superstar" on late night tv when Richard first heard it.
We all know what the Carpenters did with THAT song! ;-)
b) Barry was signed with A & M records in the mid / late 70's.
There is a mention on one of Barry's sites (or at least there was) of KC stopping by and hearing Barry's version of "Tryin' To Get The Feeling Again" and KC saying it was going to be a big hit. It was!
c) Not really a BManilow / Carpenters , but a Bette Midler one ... KC presented a grammy to Bette in ?? '74 ??.
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Post by Rick Henry on Jan 8, 2007 22:19:36 GMT -5
Nope not Barry Manilow. Although, we do know that Carpenters did a dark and gripping soulful rendition of "Tryin' To Get The Feeling Again" - Carpenters actually recorded this song before Manilow did - and had it been released on "Horizon" it would have come out a few months before Manilow's recording. Though, manilow did a fine rendition of this song I feel Carpenters' recording far surpasses Manilow's - it Karen's reading, she really put her all into it - it is one of those "chill factor" songs of the highest degree. |
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Post by wisejester7 on Jan 9, 2007 7:46:27 GMT -5
Billy Joel is who I thought of next, though he is really from Bronx.
Barbra Streisand, however, was born in Brooklyn.
Could either of these artists be the one you refer to?
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Post by Rick Henry on Jan 9, 2007 10:09:59 GMT -5
Billy Joel is who I thought of next, though he is really from Bronx. Barbra Streisand, however, was born in Brooklyn. Could either of these artists be the one you refer to? Here's a clue - figuring out the song title will give you the artist name. |
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Post by YesterdayOnceMore on Jan 10, 2007 20:43:13 GMT -5
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Post by Rick Henry on Jan 11, 2007 2:47:22 GMT -5
Very interesting guess Tim but it's not Rod Stewart either. The song titled "forever Young" does have a similar meaning as the title of the song in this game.
Here is another clue - it's vague but still a clue. This clue is for the song itself:
Song: Christmas Tree
Here are the previous clues:
Artist: Brooklyn
Song: Perenially visculent
***Sidenote: Tim, you bring up an interesting thought in mentioning Rod Stewart - there's got to be several Carpenters connections here - don't be surprised if he shows up in one of these games at one point or another. |
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Post by wisejester7 on Jan 12, 2007 19:48:40 GMT -5
Thanks, Tim, for helping me keep my Billy Joel facts in order! |
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Post by wisejester7 on Jan 12, 2007 19:51:45 GMT -5
I haven't given up, Rick. I'm just stuck for the while. Your last given clue still leaves me standing out looking in, but who knows ... maybe it will jog something loose, yet! ;-)
Evergreen, maybe ... for the song. That makes me think of Barbra Streisand, again. Barbra was up for a Grammy (1976) (didn't win) for Evergreen. The presenter was Miss Karen Carpenter. The year of the telecast was 1977.
I seem to be going in circles. : (
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Post by Rick Henry on Jan 12, 2007 21:23:47 GMT -5
You are right Wisejester7... the song is Barbra Streisand's "Evergreen".
Now there are atleast two Carpenters connections to this particular Streisand song. What are they?
Wisejester7 - you are very close.
btw... was Karen a presenter at the 1977 Grammy Awards? I watched this particular show but don't remember seeing Karen. |
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Post by wisejester7 on Jan 12, 2007 22:28:30 GMT -5
Yes, Karen was a presenter. ( I believe this clip might be found on YouTube. I think.) |
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Post by Rick Henry on Jan 13, 2007 10:27:27 GMT -5
Yes, Karen was a presenter. ( I believe this clip might be found on YouTube. I think.) If it was the 1976 Grammy Awards show which was aired in early 1977 Streisand may have been nominated for an award in that season - but it couldn't have been for "Evergreen" - as "Evergreen" didn't make the charts until December 1976 which is after the cut-off date for eligibilty in 1976. And "Evergreen" did by all means win several Grammy Awards on the 1977 Awards show which aired in early 1978 - this show I watched - maybe I must have missed part of it.
Anyone have any clues as to the two Carpenters connections to the song "Evergreen"? Remember the connections are both directly to the song "Evergreen" itself. |
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Post by GoodOldDreams on Jan 13, 2007 15:53:31 GMT -5
In a radio special on her when the film remake of "A Star is Born" first came out, Barbra Streisand said she was often diddling on the piano and ended up composing a classical-sounding piece which became the music for "Evergreen." The lyricist for this song is Paul Williams, whom we all know from his great song-writing partnership with Roger Nichols on "We've Only Just Begun", "Rainy Days and Mondays", "I Won't Last a Day Without You" and others as well as his solo writing effort on "Ordinary Fool." As a second connection, there was also a show in which Barbra and Burt Bacharach did a duet of "Close to You". It is interesting to watch them battling out for top billing at the beginning of this video clip: youtube.com/watch?v=qsIqSqOe8m8 |
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Post by wisejester7 on Jan 13, 2007 20:03:39 GMT -5
Yes, Karen was a presenter. ( I believe this clip might be found on YouTube. I think.) If it was the 1976 Grammy Awards show which was aired in early 1977 Streisand may have been nominated for an award in that season - but it couldn't have been for "Evergreen" - as "Evergreen" didn't make the charts until December 1976 which is after the cut-off date for eligibilty in 1976. And "Evergreen" did by all means win several Grammy Awards on the 1977 Awards show which aired in early 1978 - this show I watched - maybe I must have missed part of it.
Anyone have any clues as to the two Carpenters connections to the song "Evergreen"? Remember the connections are both directly to the song "Evergreen" itself. Yes, Karen presented that year, but for the Female Vocalist Of The Year ... not Song Of the Year. Barbra didn't win in that category. |
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Post by Rick Henry on Jan 13, 2007 21:18:28 GMT -5
Dreams... you got the easy Carpenters connection to the song "Evergreen" - that being Paul Williams - as we all know Carpenters recorded many songs he's written including those you mentioned plus "The Rainbow Connection".
But, there is a second Carpenters connection to the song "Evergreen" - does anybody know what it is? |
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Post by wisejester7 on Jan 14, 2007 7:23:35 GMT -5
One of the engineers who worked on the project was Phil Ramone. Of course, he worked with Karen on 'Karen Carpenter'.
A&M recording studios was used for the inhouse sessions.
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Post by Rick Henry on Jan 14, 2007 11:14:36 GMT -5
One of the engineers who worked on the project was Phil Ramone. Of course, he worked with Karen on 'Karen Carpenter'. A&M recording studios was used for the inhouse sessions. That's a good one Wisejester7... that's one of the connections I did not have in mind. As I mentioned in the first post in this thread there are two connections (There may possibly be more than two connections). You got one of the "possibly more".
The other connection has to do with the song "Evergreen" itself (and really not anything to do with Barbra Streisand). Read over some of the earlier posts here - as you guys were leaning in the direction of this other connection. |
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