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Post by ps11932 on Feb 24, 2007 16:09:36 GMT -5
Like you, Tim, I don't hear much radio, and music on radio even less (I do like "American Roots".) I haven't heard any Carpenters this year. The few stations that seem most likely to possibly play C's also play some stuff I enjoy, but also a lot of stuff that I don't much care for; since I have so much Carpenter material on CD, I'm not likely to have the radio on that type of station for long periods of time just waiting for them. But having said all that, it does seem like there has been an increase in reported hears over the past week. It's a long year, and there will be ups and downs, as in most things. (Just now, as I listen to the radio in the background, another singer performing a song that Karen sang just came on- and frankly this other singer sounds like a sick cat.) Perhaps there will be a spike in C's exposure as a result of the Carpenter connection in "Ghost Rider." I guess all we can do is keep our ears open, lobby DJ's if we are so inclined, and keep reporting!
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Post by wisejester7 on Feb 24, 2007 16:50:33 GMT -5
Like you, Tim, I don't hear much radio, and music on radio even less (I do like "American Roots".) I haven't heard any Carpenters this year. The few stations that seem most likely to possibly play C's also play some stuff I enjoy, but also a lot of stuff that I don't much care for; since I have so much Carpenter material on CD, I'm not likely to have the radio on that type of station for long periods of time just waiting for them. But having said all that, it does seem like there has been an increase in reported hears over the past week. It's a long year, and there will be ups and downs, as in most things. (Just now, as I listen to the radio in the background, another singer performing a song that Karen sang just came on- and frankly this other singer sounds like a sick cat.) Perhaps there will be a spike in C's exposure as a result of the Carpenter connection in "Ghost Rider." I guess all we can do is keep our ears open, lobby DJ's if we are so inclined, and keep reporting! Well said!
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Post by wisejester7 on Mar 6, 2007 7:42:48 GMT -5
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Post by Rick Henry on Mar 6, 2007 18:57:13 GMT -5
Oh happy happy! I just love it when one of their hits outside of the standard 1970-1973 songs is played. Glad you heard "Please Mr. Postman" - I haven't heard that one on the radio in quite some time - I don't understand why this one doesn't get more airplay as it's one of the most catchy upbeat pop songs in this history of popular music. The one I manage to hear a few times a year (outside of the 1970-1973 hits) is "Only Yesterday".
Another to add to the list of hears is "I Won't Last A Day Without You" - I heard this one about three days ago.
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Post by ps11932 on Mar 10, 2007 16:17:44 GMT -5
As of 1313 (closks not changed yet) P.T. on Sat., 10 March, here is the latest total. Thanks for the recent reports.
We've Only Just Begun-6 Close To You-4 I Won't Last a Day Without You-4 For All We Know-3 Rainy Days And Mondays-1 Only Yesterday-1 Top Of The World-1 It's Going To Take Some Time-1 Superstar-1 Please Mr. Postman-1
I'm wondering- should hears of "Superstar" during the movie "Ghost Rider" be eligible? It is Carpenters music in a public venue.
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Post by rafaelramosporto on Mar 11, 2007 0:14:08 GMT -5
Hi to everyone. In the past week I went to the movies to see the movie Ghost Rider and to my surprise and delight there is a scene where the main character played by Nicolas Cage comes to his loft and when he turns on his music system the song that he hears is Superstar. The main character loved that song!!! There is another scene in the movie that before going to perform in the bike show he hears Superstar again. I was so excited by that and wanted to share it with all the other fans out there. Best regards, Rafael
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Post by ps11932 on Mar 12, 2007 16:44:09 GMT -5
Hi Rafael, Thanks for the report. Yes, a number of people were talking on another post about "Superstar" being in the movie, with the hope that it will capture the curiosity of some people and perhaps result in more fans. Whether the 'hears" of Superstar from Ghost Rider are included in this log (which is generally updated weekly) is up for debate among everyone- any thoughts that you, Rafael, (and anyone else) has are welcome.
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Post by wisejester7 on Mar 13, 2007 7:04:53 GMT -5
As of 1313 (closks not changed yet) P.T. on Sat., 10 March, here is the latest total. Thanks for the recent reports. .... .... I'm wondering- should hears of "Superstar" during the movie "Ghost Rider" be eligible? It is Carpenters music in a public venue. I think, Yes. The movie should count as a legitimate hear.
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Post by Rick Henry on Mar 13, 2007 7:23:33 GMT -5
As of 1313 (closks not changed yet) P.T. on Sat., 10 March, here is the latest total. Thanks for the recent reports. .... .... I'm wondering- should hears of "Superstar" during the movie "Ghost Rider" be eligible? It is Carpenters music in a public venue. I think, Yes. The movie should count as a legitimate hear. I would disagree, respectfully, in that it is only one song played in the movie - and it will always be the same one song. Also it's only a portion of the song - the entire song is not played.
Radio, internet radio and piped in music (such as what is heard in the mall, restaurants, etc) gives you the entire song uninterupted and also a variety of different songs - it's not always going to be the same Carpenters song. although it is pretty much the same ten or so songs we hear on the radio - too bad more of the 1975 hits aren't played as I feel these are amongst their best - most prominently "Only Yesterday".
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Post by GoodOldDreams on Mar 13, 2007 11:25:01 GMT -5
I think, Yes. The movie should count as a legitimate hear. I would disagree, respectfully, in that it is only one song played in the movie - and it will always be the same one song. Also it's only a portion of the song - the entire song is not played.
Radio, internet radio and piped in music (such as what is heard in the mall, restaurants, etc) gives you the entire song uninterupted and also a variety of different songs - it's not always going to be the same Carpenters song. although it is pretty much the same ten or so songs we hear on the radio - too bad more of the 1975 hits aren't played as I feel these are amongst their best - most prominently "Only Yesterday". I respectfully disagree. I understand your point that a song, when played only partially, has perhaps less weight than one that is played in its entirety. However, in the context of this movie, the main character actually TALKS about the music, bringing focus to it and prominence as a subject matter rather than have it relegated as some background filler music that the audience may or may not notice. I recognize that the music score for a movie helps to color the emotions of the moment on the screen, but it can be too subtle or instantly forgettable because it blended so well with the rest of the medium. This is NOT the case here, as the protagonist makes a point of showing his love of Carpenters music as a character trait of his. Radio, internet radio and piped in music may present the entire song uninterrupted, but the audience is more likely to be distracted or only partially listening it as background music while attending to shopping, working, or some other activity. A movie-going audience, by contrast, is there EXPRESSLY to watch the movie, not attend to some other activities simultaneously. If you will, a movie audience is a captive audience. On the issue of one song vs. a variety of songs being played, I think a song would get more attention if it were the only song being played at a venue rather than being just one of many songs. Because of its unexpectedness or uniqueness in the flow, the singular song would have more impact on the audience. For these reasons, the Carpenters' song "Superstar," however abridged it may be in the movie "Ghost Rider," SHOULD be counted on par with other "hears" in our log. For similar reasons, if the movie "Tommy Boy" were shown today, "Superstar" should be counted.
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Post by Rick Henry on Mar 13, 2007 20:49:17 GMT -5
In defense of my viewpoint.
Going out to see a movie is by choice - while hearing a song on the radio is somewhat random - yes you may choose the radio station - but they may not always play the songs you want to hear. I feel we should stick with our original ground rules.
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Post by GoodOldDreams on Mar 14, 2007 12:49:33 GMT -5
I see the point you are trying to convey. However, many radio stations take song requests and dedications from audience members, which by definition would be by choice. DJs and radio programmers make their own choices as well, and we tend to listen to certain radio stations that play "our kind of music." Therefore, the distinction between a radio and a movie broadcast in this regard is moot. This log we are creating is by no means a scientific, random sampling from a large impartial population, so at best the results reflect only partially what is out there in popular culture. To count one medium and not another would be further distort the "big picture." (For example, would it make sense to disregard songs from "The Karen Carpenter Story" if this show were premiered today and garnered the high TV ratings it did, simpy because they were not broadcast via radio, piped-in store music, etc.? Watching certain TV channels and shows is by the choice of the viewers, so by narrowly defining restrictions on the types of broadcast media permissible, the huge impact of this show could be completely ignored.) I think a more inclusive view gives us a better sense of the range of what is circulating out there currently.
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Post by Rick Henry on Mar 14, 2007 14:38:08 GMT -5
Movies, though do not have a disc jockey to take requests. Movies are a complete different type of media.
Another point is that a movie goer is not going to a movie to primarily listen to music - unless say it's a musical.
Maybe a separate log should be kept of what is heard in movies, TV shows and the like.
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Post by GoodOldDreams on Mar 15, 2007 19:52:14 GMT -5
Maintaining parallel logs sounds like a good, flexible compromise! That way, looking at the final tallies at the end of the year, each of us can choose to include or exclude certain media from the total counts in the log according to our own personal criteria. O.E., if it's not too much additional work for you, would this be OK with you? Thanks!
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Post by wisejester7 on Mar 16, 2007 9:05:54 GMT -5
Maintaining parallel logs sounds like a good, flexible compromise! That way, looking at the final tallies at the end of the year, each of us can choose to include or exclude certain media from the total counts in the log according to our own personal criteria. O.E., if it's not too much additional work for you, would this be OK with you? Thanks! This sounds like a sensible plan, although perhaps creating more complications for O.E.
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Post by ps11932 on Mar 16, 2007 16:52:11 GMT -5
I can keep a separate log for movie hears, etc. Since the discussions of who has seen the movie appear on various posts, I will ask that whomever has seen the movie(s) and heard the song therein please report it as a new post on "2007 Carpenters Log." As of right now the only change from the last listing is Dave's radio hear of "Top Of The World"; I will list a new tally (actually, 2 of them) within a week or so. Thanks!
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Post by YesterdayOnceMore on Mar 16, 2007 19:32:23 GMT -5
Maintaining parallel logs sounds like a good, flexible compromise! That way, looking at the final tallies at the end of the year, each of us can choose to include or exclude certain media from the total counts in the log according to our own personal criteria. O.E., if it's not too much additional work for you, would this be OK with you? Thanks! This sounds like a sensible plan, although perhaps creating more complications for O.E. It sounds as though we have come to a reasonable, and flexible agreement here as to how to handle this listen of Superstar, or who knows, maybe OTHER movie hears. Wouldn't it be nice if we could hear more and more Carpenters music, and the more we hear them, no matter what the source, the better I'm going to like it. And thanks, O.E., for being willing to split up the "hears" as discussed, here.
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Post by Rick Henry on Mar 25, 2007 3:49:57 GMT -5
Sorry all... for throwing a wrench into this conversation. Though, it sounds like this may be a good compromise to this issue at hand. I can go with that.
Unfortunately I haven't once heard Carpenters played anywhere since I was last on the forum somewhere around March 19th.
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