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Post by cam83 on Oct 21, 2005 17:52:49 GMT -5
Of these songs, which do you feel Karen should have rerecorded?( I know that Someday was partially rerecorded in 1980...but not the full version)...
Cam
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Post by Rick Henry on Oct 21, 2005 20:30:36 GMT -5
I chose "Now" but before I discuss why I chose this one I want to comment on some of the others you listed Cam.
Karen's vocals on "Solitaire", "Rainy Days And Mondays", "Eve" and "I Just Fall In Love Again" are all perfect from beginning to end her vocals are flawless. No need to have rerecorded any of these songs.
A rerecording of "Someday" would have been nice as this is a wonderful song and hear a slightly more refined vocal from Karen and a tighter musical arrangement from Richard would have made this wonderful song even better.
"Now" my choice is a beautiful song and I love it. Richard's arrangement is right on the mark. You just can't get much better than this. But the downfall is the fact that it was a scratch vocal. This was not meant to be the vocal which would have been used for the final cut. And although Karen does a excellent job with it (after all her scratch vocals are better than most other singers' finished vocals). But for Karen Carpenter this vocal is not her finest work, yes an excellent work - but there are some vocal flaws in certain parts.
Another reason I would have liked her to rerecord this song is so that she could add her backup vocals. The OK Chorale is just fine - but not quite up to the quality or personality of having Karen sing her own back up.
Regardless of all this I still do love this song.
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Post by cam83 on Oct 22, 2005 4:15:33 GMT -5
I chose SOLITAIRE...because as we know Karen was unhappy with it. Although to my feeling, it is her BEST song ever!!! It would have been neat to hear another version of it, that Karen might have liked better. Another arrangement.
Cam
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Post by karen69roland on Oct 22, 2005 7:51:15 GMT -5
To me, all the songs listed in the poll are top notch recordings except for *Eve* and the full version of *Someday*. Now, since, *Someday* was done again on the Music Music Music TV special in 1980(box-sets), I chose *Eve*. [glow=red,2,300][/glow][shadow=red,left,300] [/shadow][shadow=red,left,300]Roland Chayer[/shadow][shadow=red,left,300] [/shadow]
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Post by enigma on Oct 22, 2005 8:12:56 GMT -5
I also went with Now I do love this song as is but I felt it was not finished and would like to have seen Karen finish it I will use this term because I hesitate to use the term rerecord on an essentially unfinished song. Someday was second for only one reason cause Karen wanted to rerecord it but as Roland stated it was kind of rerecorded for the MMM and personally I see nothing wrong with the original flaws and all.
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Post by Rick Henry on Oct 22, 2005 9:20:59 GMT -5
I also went with Now I do love this song as is but I felt it was not finished and would like to have seen Karen finish it I will use this term because I hesitate to use the term rerecord on an essentially unfinished song. Good way to put it Enigma.
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Post by Moe on Oct 24, 2005 21:34:27 GMT -5
I voted for Someday.
This is a great song and would sound so much better with Karen's more refined voice that came with age and experience. I love the short version in the 1980 Medley and would have loved to hear it totally re-recorded.
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Post by YesterdayOnceMore on Oct 29, 2005 12:01:50 GMT -5
I voted for Someday. This is a great song and would sound so much better with Karen's more refined voice that came with age and experience. I love the short version in the 1980 Medley and would have loved to hear it totally re-recorded. I'm with you, Moe. I went with Someday. Although the 1980 short version is wonderful, the original version was done when Karen was quite young and I think she would have chosen to have done this much differently had she "rerecorded" it at a later point in her life. I also think Richard would have chosen to have made some changes in the orchestration of this tune, as well. There's a part where it almost seems as if it could distort at any point - and I think this arrangement could be refined and made much more soothing. It would have been pretty cool to have been able to listen to both and find the differences. Tim
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Post by smoothie2 on Oct 29, 2005 23:58:15 GMT -5
Seems like all these songs turned out perfect, but I chose Now.
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Post by GoodOldDreams on Nov 8, 2005 14:37:29 GMT -5
I think the full-length of "Someday" can benefit from being re-recorded. K's vocals in the original version seemed drowned out in certain parts juxtaposed to the crescendo of the orchestra.
Being an early recording of the C's, the album "Offering/Ticket to Ride" seemed very uneven in the quality of the engineering and performance. Dare I say it --- K sounded a bit "off" in parts of "Someday"and most of the original version of "Ticket to Ride."
I was really glad when they re-recorded "Ticket to Ride" for their first "Singles" album. K's performance was superb in the latter version, so "Someday" could have been improved similarly.
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