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Post by smoothie2 on May 1, 2005 0:11:49 GMT -5
???perhaps this thought has already come up somewhere else ...but I was reading on Amazon a review of the C's "As Time Goes By" album...and he or she said that they liked the whole thing fine except....where Richard sings with Karen on "You're Just in Love"...On the tv special, it's John Davidson who sings it w/ Karen, but on the As Time G. B. album Richard sings it w/ her (I forgot why). And so...the reviewer said hearing Richard on that was "yuck".... well, true, I prefer J. Davidson on that one, but actually, I sure wouldn't say he was "yuck".... his voice blends in perfectly on that I think... just wonder what you out there might think...
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Post by Moe on May 1, 2005 0:30:19 GMT -5
absolutely not a "yuk!" I would have preferred John, too, but the Carpenters' blended vocals are always a treat! Happy May everyone!
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Post by Carps1000 on May 1, 2005 2:32:19 GMT -5
??$ Richard has a good voice but his contributes in Place of Perry Como/John Davidsson didnt do the songs any favours...ITs only my opinion Ken
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Post by enigma on May 1, 2005 6:59:03 GMT -5
I do not have a problem with Richards voice but he should have left the original performers vocals in the songs that were from the special. As far as I am concerned this was so Richard did not have to share royalties or get permissions for the recordings. I liked the songs with John Davidson and Perry Como etc I don't feel Richard needed to do this but whats done is done. I am a stickler for original recordings so forgive my criticism.
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Post by Carps1000 on May 1, 2005 8:44:32 GMT -5
100% agree with ya Enigma. To me those songs which R took over the male lead to me is not an original song even tho they are goood with with him its just not the same. Ken Carps1000
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Post by Rick Henry on May 1, 2005 11:04:49 GMT -5
Richard has a good voice but his contributes in Place of Perry Como/John Davidsson didnt do the songs any favours...ITs only my opinion Ken Exactly Ken. Well said. Richard does have a good voice but I feel he missed the mark on "You're Just In Love" his timing is not completely in sync with Karen. John Davidson did a much much better job.
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Post by smoothie2 on May 1, 2005 23:36:07 GMT -5
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Post by YesterdayOnceMore on May 2, 2005 10:29:36 GMT -5
%?? Hi everyone: I vaguely remember hearing Karen and John Davidson do this song, but not having the tape of it, it's a very vague memory. I think the reason Rich did the recording this way was because he couldn't get it to come out in a releasable fashion having left in the original singers. I've read somewhere that in order to have been able to release As Time Goes By, he needed to make the recording changes, because of the leakage or stage sounds or something. We all know that Richard is a perfectionist, so I suppose this made his reasoning sound to him. He didn't want to put something out there that had potential for criticism. And, look where that got him. I, too, would have preferred the originals, but at the end of the day, if this is the way it had to be, then I'm happy he put his own voice in it, and released it for us to enjoy. Tim
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Post by Rick Henry on May 2, 2005 20:45:05 GMT -5
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Post by smoothie2 on May 2, 2005 23:19:03 GMT -5
Hi everyone: I vaguely remember hearing Karen and John Davidson do this song, but not having the tape of it, it's a very vague memory. I think the reason Rich did the recording this way was because he couldn't get it to come out in a releasable fashion having left in the original singers. I've read somewhere that in order to have been able to release As Time Goes By, he needed to make the recording changes, because of the leakage or stage sounds or something. We all know that Richard is a perfectionist, so I suppose this made his reasoning sound to him. He didn't want to put something out there that had potential for criticism. And, look where that got him. I, too, would have preferred the originals, but at the end of the day, if this is the way it had to be, then I'm happy he put his own voice in it, and released it for us to enjoy. Tim %?? ???It's good to have your input also Tim...and yes, it really is an outstanding album, however it came out....
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Post by smoothie2 on May 2, 2005 23:25:09 GMT -5
yes, I also agree Rick that it would have been very nice to have Karen sing it on her own. My, overall, Karen's love for these songs and the fun she had singing these truly can be heard, just like most of what she sang.... She's soooooooo KAREN!!
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Post by Rick Henry on May 3, 2005 7:14:50 GMT -5
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Post by cam83 on May 3, 2005 10:37:01 GMT -5
Personally, the SPACE ENCOUNTERS medley should have been left off, and featured another outtake by Karen. I always felt, even though he is gifted in those piano concertos et al, that he should have done an album of that itself, but not on a Carpenters album with no Karen vocal...
My thoughts, Cam
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Post by JIM on May 3, 2005 18:33:56 GMT -5
!@ I agree Cam, Space Encounters is nice but yes another Karen would have been better.
I have always wondered, since Richard mentions that the parts Karen sang for the Ella medley were recorded at A&M if she just sang the verses heard on the album or did they record the entire song for editing. I would love it if there is a complete version of My Funny Valentine in the vault. Another medley from MYOKOM has A Chair is still A Chair. I would just be in heaven if I heard the enire song Jim
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Post by cam83 on May 3, 2005 19:21:08 GMT -5
Yeah, Karen sings those bits of songs so wonderfully. She had such a tremendous gift for singing songs...any songs and making it her own with her own wonderful vocals...
Cam
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