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Post by cam83 on Apr 25, 2005 1:50:31 GMT -5
Yes, A PLACE TO HIDEAWAY is a beautiful song. Haunting, elegant and something I could relate to very much...thanks for sharing your thoughts!! Cameron
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Post by enigma on Apr 25, 2005 2:36:18 GMT -5
I know that as opinionated as I am I can come off as not caring. But believe me I do care. And I always only hope the best for all people. I've always believed it's better to be direct then to sugarcoat things. I've always had this slight bit of rebel in me. Sorry for rambling on. But this thread does tend to make one open up. Rick At the risk of repeating ones self well said Rick I can so relate. In case you haven't noticed I also do not sugarcoat things I would almost rather hurt someone with honesty than comfort them with deceit. I am a senseitive and caring person and will spare someones feelings in extreme cases by lets say being less than 100% truthful but it really is so against who I am to not be 100% honest and truthful. I stand by my convicxxtions and beliefs at great cost sometimes but it can be no other way for me. Cam I think very highly of you knowing what you went through. You are a survivor and a tough son of a gun and to top it off you seem to have turned out to be a solid citizen in spit of what you went through. What you went through with your Family(s) is what I went through in the outside world and I could not have made it without a stable, caring, loving family I am convinced I would be with Karen if not for that. So I can somewhat relate to your pain even though with family it must be worse. You are a bright, intellegent articulate person and I love your passions for the Carpenters I love that Karen and Carpenters music helped you and you are one example of what Karen is no doubt proud that she accomplished in her lifetime (hopefully Richard is also proud of what his sister helping people as well as his and Karens music). I will end my message to you here and hope you read it soon it does not cover everything but it does cover some things and though I do not know you these are just some impressions I get from you based on what you share. Hope this does not sound too weird and sorry to get so far off topic. Finally Its been said before but I just want to say I am happy to be part of a family like atmosphere where people will put themselves out there and share intimate and personal experieces as well as other Carpenters realted things it makes me feel I know you all just a little better than in most forum situations and this goes to all of you not just Rick and Cam. ??$ ?x? &^ *%
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Post by Rick Henry on Apr 25, 2005 2:58:38 GMT -5
Enigma you certainly touched on some good points here. So I must address each one individually. Rick At the risk of repeating ones self well said Rick I can so relate. In case you haven't noticed I also do not sugarcoat things I would almost rather hurt someone with honesty than comfort them with deceit. I am a senseitive and caring person and will spare someones feelings in extreme cases by lets say being less than 100% truthful but it really is so against who I am to not be 100% honest and truthful. I stand by my convicxxtions and beliefs at great cost sometimes but it can be no other way for me. I wasn't always this way. There was a time in my life when I was completely timid in my viewpoints. I rarely would speak my mind. This wasn't good because people didn't respect me. I can remember one time around 1981 or 82 someone told I was spineless. It's been in the last twelve thirteen years that I've learned to have guts and to say this is who I am. This is what I think and feel. And not worry about if I'm going to offend anyone. You just can't go on with life worrying about saying the wrong thing because there is always going to be someone who doesn't agree with you or see eye to eye with you. Cam I think very highly of you knowing what you went through. You are a survivor and a tough son of a gun and to top it off you seem to have turned out to be a solid citizen in spit of what you went through. What you went through with your Family(s) is what I went through in the outside world and I could not have made it without a stable, caring, loving family I am convinced I would be with Karen if not for that. So I can somewhat relate to your pain even though with family it must be worse. You are a bright, intellegent articulate person and I love your passions for the Carpenters I love that Karen and Carpenters music helped you and you are one example of what Karen is no doubt proud that she accomplished in her lifetime (hopefully Richard is also proud of what his sister helping people as well as his and Karens music). I will end my message to you here and hope you read it soon it does not cover everything but it does cover some things and though I do not know you these are just some impressions I get from you based on what you share. Hope this does not sound too weird and sorry to get so far off topic. Yes, Cam you are truly a survivor. You are an inspiration to me. I respect your openess in speaking about who you are and what you've been through. I also think very highly of you. Finally Its been said before but I just want to say I am happy to be part of a family like atmosphere where people will put themselves out there and share intimate and personal experieces as well as other Carpenters realted things it makes me feel I know you all just a little better than in most forum situations and this goes to all of you not just Rick and Cam. "Family atmosphere". I'm glad you put it that way Enigma. Because this has been my goal with this forum too make it somewhat like family. To be out there to speak my mind. To share my emotions. To share my likes and my dislikes. Just to be me. And in turn hopefully others will open up the same way and share. This may sound funny but for some reason it seems only appropriate that the members of a Carpenters forum of all forums should be more like family than just people on the internet. Family isn't always perfect but at the end of the day when we say goodnight we know we genuinely do care for each other. anyway thanks for letting me ramble...
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Post by cam83 on Apr 25, 2005 14:10:24 GMT -5
Thank you both Engima and Rick, For those kind words. Yes, we are a family brought together by the Carpenters' most popular singer Karen Carpenter and her heavensent voice. We are all survivors. I suppose, I try not to sugarcoat things, but on the other hand, I always grew believing in tact...trying to look at the whole situation and see where the other person was coming from, or how I can relate to them better, by using different words etc. I used to never voice my feelings too, but in the last few years, I now stand up for myself. But I also try not to stand on other people to do that as well...I just set limits that people don't cross to harm me(emotionally speaking of course)...I always feel if you let someone hurt you, it's because you let them(although it's a diff situation esp if you are a child)... My thoughts, Cam
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Post by Rick Henry on Apr 26, 2005 0:44:25 GMT -5
Thank you both Engima and Rick, For those kind words. Yes, we are a family brought together by the Carpenters' most popular singer Karen Carpenter and her heavensent voice. We are all survivors. I suppose, I try not to sugarcoat things, but on the other hand, I always grew believing in tact...trying to look at the whole situation and see where the other person was coming from, or how I can relate to them better, by using different words etc. I used to never voice my feelings too, but in the last few years, I now stand up for myself. But I also try not to stand on other people to do that as well...I just set limits that people don't cross to harm me(emotionally speaking of course)...I always feel if you let someone hurt you, it's because you let them(although it's a diff situation esp if you are a child)... My thoughts, Cam you are so right Cam. Tact is very important. Thank you for the helpful reminder. Tact is just as important as being tough. I end up having a few more songs to add to my "these songs seem to mirror the person I am" list. "Sometimes": This is one of the Carpenters' most meaningful songs. It's sort and simple but it's message is very powerful. This song speaks volumes to me. I want to be a person who does remember his loved ones. I want to remember the fun we've had. And I want to remember to say "thank you". I do not want to be ungrateful or disrepectful to those in my midst. Sometimes I forget the important things in life. Like saying "thank you". Or recognizing the talents of another and letting them know how good they are. Or like walking outside and taking the time to notice the flowers, the trees, the sky, the children playing. To just really breath in life and live it fully. And to rejoice in it. "Don't Be Afraid": Don't be afraid to love just simply love. To love life, love nature, love God, love love, love yourself, just love. Because love is a groovy thing. This is something I tell myself often; "Don't be afraid to love", "don't be afraid to be yourself". I really do get a lot from Carpenters lyrics. There's much more to there music than meets the eye. there are some pretty intense and deep songs. Even poppy upbeat quirky songs like "Don't Be Afraid", "Sing" and "Top Of The World" have some pretty awesome messages in what they're saying. SOMETIMESSometimes not often enough We reflect upon the good things And those thoughs always center around those we love And I think about those people who mean so much to me And for so many years have made me so very happy And I count the times I have forgotten to say "thank you" And just how much I love them Thanks again friends for letting me ramble on...
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