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Post by Rick Henry on Jul 2, 2004 21:23:27 GMT -5
I've had a few dreams about the Carpenters. The first one was in early 1978 (this was just a month after I saw them live at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas on December 29, 1977). In the dream I was at a Carpenters concert which was at an outside stadium. Karen looked more like she did in 1974 in the dream. They were great live. I was in total bliss in the dream. They went into "superstar" and then all of a sudden the stage broke into flames and both K&R caught on fire. that was a very strange dream. The most recent dream happened about a year and a half ago. I was listening to the radio and on a came a new Carpenters song I had never heard before and it was such a great song that it ranked with their very best. I guess this dream came about because of my strong hope that more unreleased material is released. a psychologist friend of mine several years ago told me that dreams are comprised of different pieces of your thoughts, life experiences, television shows you have watched, music you listen to, conversations you have, they're all the bits and pieces of everything you experience in your life.
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Post by cam83 on Jul 2, 2004 23:34:10 GMT -5
Hi Everyone, Yes, I have had dreams before of Karen and Richard. Usually it's weird. One time I met Agnes and Harold Carpenter at their home on Newville but then the house changed and we were talking about my love for Karen and her music...and then I was outside, and they were filming Cynthia Gibb for new scenes not used in the Karen Carpenter Story and it was bizarre and she was singing new undiscovered songs(not sung by Cynthia). I also remember being up in her wardrobe closet and climbing the staircase. It seemed so real that when I woke up, I was in tears.
My thoughts, Cameron
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Post by Rick Henry on Jul 3, 2004 1:20:30 GMT -5
Hi Everyone, Yes, I have had dreams before of Karen and Richard. Usually it's weird. One time I met Agnes and Harold Carpenter at their home on Newville but then the house changed and we were talking about my love for Karen and her music...and then I was outside, and they were filming Cynthia Gibb for new scenes not used in the Karen Carpenter Story and it was bizarre and she was singing new undiscovered songs(not sung by Cynthia). I also remember being up in her wardrobe closet and climbing the staircase. It seemed so real that when I woke up, I was in tears. My thoughts, Cameron That is one intense dream walking in her wardrobe closet. Wow, I would have been in tears myself.
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Post by rmjoots on Mar 26, 2005 1:51:05 GMT -5
Found this old post topic and although I posted this on another forum, I thought whether anyone could see if my interpretation of my dream is right on or what you can read into it. It was DETAILED and real. Here is the post:
First off, if you have seen the clip of Rich and Karen on the Carol Burnett show circa 1972, where she is absolutely looking beautiful with her hair long and up behind her ears is how she appeared to look this time.(Bacharach Medley Trio) - also how she looked in the Jerry Dunphy interview. She was young. So in my dream it started off that Richard and Karen were home from a long tour trip and were doing some publicity to tour a museum. Now because I was a "fan girl" and a friend of a friend of Karen's, (let's call her Brie) I was present and feeling in AWE of being in the Carpenters' presence. I stayed in their way and was so close to Karen, I am sure they were both wondering who I am and why I'm hanging around.... After a small press conference, I went up to Karen's table and tried asking her some stuff, maybe get an autograph, but she seemed tired and not really in a "smiling" mood. I laid off and just sort of tried not to keep staring at her in awe because she was so pretty in real life.
Here is the real good part of my dream. At some point, Karen is hanging out with a group of girls, including Brie and myself on a patio. Brie (and this happened in Real Life) had an uncle that shot and killed her aunt and her mother and for some odd reason, Karen accidently said something in jest and passing reference about it, probably having forgotten from the tour. Well, as soon as she said it, Karen looked horrified! and VERY apolegetic to Brie. Brie was in pain from the reminder of this incident so I watched as Karen sat down, pulled Brie into sitting in front of her, put her arms around her, laid her head against Brie's and closed her eyes, just hugging this girl, comforting her. I just watched this and Karen was being sooo quiet and still, then without anything changing, tears started coming out and down her cheeks, as she comforted this person. Of course, Brie was feeling this love and compassion and feeling from Karen's embrace and tears, and I got the thought "This is how Karen makes all of us feel with her voice and personality when we are down and we listen to her music. She just gave us all of who she is and true feelings, and she comforts us this same way, as though she has her arms around us and feels how we feel". wub.gif wub.gif
It felt so profound and warm to see this and also feel it in some way myself as though I was Brie. After a little bit, she let go of Brie and we carried on our conversations, and although I tried not to keep looking at Karen, me and her made eye contact a few times, and Karen still looked sad, a little teary-eyed about her comment and for the feelings of her friend. I REALLY wanted to get up and hold her and hug her, but then soon after, the dream ended and this morning I just feel like I felt and witnessed an honest whiff of her spirit or something! It was a very real and touching dream, feeling emotions of comfort and solace from Karen. I even watched the clip of "Carol Burnett' before posting this and seeing her as in my dream, choked me up!!!
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Post by Mariah Andrews on Mar 27, 2005 1:26:20 GMT -5
Not to my knowledge. I've had few celebrity dreams. I've dreamed about meeting the woman who played the mother figure on the show "Small Wonder". I've dreamed that I stopped John Lennon from getting shot. But I had a horrible nightmare that Bob Barker and Larry Flint were out to kill me. I had a dream that I had a "lesbian affair" with one of the Price is Right girls, Bob Barker caught me and threatened to kill me. I ended up running from town to town, state to state and Bob would end up finding me holding a knife threatening to stab me to death. Then, Larry Flint, who was Bob Barker's friend in the dream, was chasing me down in his wheelchair threatening to also stab me. And for a long time after that dream, i refused to watch The Price Is Right!!!
Dreams about Karen? Let me say, I've had fantasies about her myself, no need to explain them here without getting in trouble....honestly. But in my book, the lead character has had dreams about seeing a Carpenters concert and meeting KC herself. But when he was 13, he found out that the lady herself is no more. How he cried. But it eventually led to the decision to name himself Karen when he transitioned into a girl.
About another post-humous singer. My uncle and my father came across a tape of Brazilian pop music called Beleza Tropical Vol 1. and 2. They came across a singer named Clara Nunez. They have kept their eyes out for her, wondering if she would ever come to the states and perform, as other artists in that compilation of South American music have been playing in recent gigs in both LA and Vegas. But as they asked me to look up that name online, I discovered that Clara Nunez had died in 1983, the same year as Karen did. But due to cancer. How their hearts were broken as they didn't know that she had been long dead. (This inspired the scenario in my book, somewhere in Chapter 3.)
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Post by rmjoots on Mar 27, 2005 1:37:36 GMT -5
The dream I just posted occured 8 days ago so it was recent and very different then what I usually dream. It was rare because of the symbolism that came into my thoughts about Karen and her effect on me when I listen to her. The feelings were real too.
For some reason, I couldn't talk to Karen in that dream. I didn't "know" her, plus she was just sort of solemn throughout and I didn't want to make her feel awkward. I even tried NOT to stare at her!!! That's a realistic concern! We just made eye-contact. I dont' know if I'll have another dream with Karen in it, but if she does, I hope I get some conversation going, rather then just observing.
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Post by Rick Henry on Mar 27, 2005 2:15:34 GMT -5
?* ?* ?* Hello rmjoots! Welcome to the forum. What an interesting dream. I've had two dreams. The first was in 1978. I dreamt I was at a Carpenters concert. they were performing at an outdoor theater - maybe a stadium. all of a sudden the stage caught on fire. i can't remember if Richard caught on fire also, but I do remember he was much closer to the fire than Karen. The second dream was in 2002. I dreamt I heard a previously unreleased song by the Carpenters on the radio and it was an intensely beautiful song.
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Post by rmjoots on Mar 27, 2005 2:21:01 GMT -5
Hmm, I don't know what that could mean about the stage catching fire! And that is cool hearing a song she sang that doesn't exist here. How special to hear!
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Post by Rick Henry on Mar 27, 2005 21:38:50 GMT -5
That unreleased song is interesting, Rick. I'll ask a stupid question: was the song a song that they have actually recorded, or is it totally unknown? I never had any dreams about Karen before last May, and I came here in the search for answers. The answer is...that I'm not alone. Not a stupid question. It was a song I've never heard before. It was a beautiful deep and dark song. It was outstanding. On the same level as when "Tryin' To Get The Feeling Again" was released in 1989. p.s. I moved this topic to the main board because I think others would enjoy reading this thread.
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Post by shalalala on Mar 28, 2005 2:33:40 GMT -5
Wow, Dave, I've never looked at dreams in that way. Opens up all kinds of possibilities ....
This is a great thread idea and I've enjoyed reading everybody's accounts of their dreams.
I've had two vivid dreams in the past two months, but, oddly, none have been about Karen Carpenter. I say "oddly" because for the past six weeks I have gone to sleep each night with my iPod headphones on, listening to the Carpenters. So you would think I would have dreamt of her by now!
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