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Post by Christian on Jan 25, 2005 21:53:42 GMT -5
After reading both the Coleman book and other stuff,
I get the feeling that Olivia is not that crazy about Richard.
She is one of the few that also criticised Richard in the Coleman book.
What do you think?
Seems like they got along from the beginning, but then from around Karen`s solo album and onwards, it seems like something happened.
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Post by enigma on Jan 26, 2005 5:39:46 GMT -5
I believe this rift developed because Olivia supported Karen and disagreed on Richards handing of the solo record. When Richard accused Karen of stealing the Carpenters sound Olivia stated something like the only simularity was that her voice was on the solo and Carpenters record and that her voice was also part of the Carpenters sound. Richards reply to this was "You are entitled to your opinion Olivia" I feel that Olivias support for her friend Karen regarding Karens attempt at a solo career put her at odds with Richard.
Remember ONJ went through a transition from pop princess to sex symbol so she no doubt saw what Karen was attempting, the change image that worked so well for Olivia could do so for Karen as well. Olivia probably encountered simular resistance when she wanted to break away from her pop princess mold and resistance to Karen changing was probably something ONJ could relate to. I would also think ONJ saw what alot of us saw alot of potential for this album to be a hit and a risk that would pay off and was worth taking.
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Post by Rob813 on Jan 28, 2005 22:18:21 GMT -5
This is an interesting topic. I was thinking that Olivia also never appeared in any of the documentary type shows like E True Hollywood Story or the A&E Biography of Carpenters. I don't think she has ever been recorded speaking about Karen or their friendship. I would love to hear her speak about this.
It's true. It does appear that no love is lost between her and Richard. It's a shame. It would be nice for the public to have a connection between them.
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Post by Moe on Feb 1, 2005 11:34:39 GMT -5
I agree that ONJ and Richard are not friends. She was a girl friend of Karen's and that is the extent of their relationship. This is nothing against either party, you don't always mesh with everyone. I think both people are so talented in their own right and I like them both....a lot.  |
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Post by Peteruk on Feb 1, 2005 19:57:38 GMT -5
Definitely Richard & Olivia were friendly up to 1980....really the fall out from Karen's solo project sessions was the problem ....and both seem to agree to disagree ...even until 2005....  Ideally Richard & Olivia will work together on some music collaboration ....& put some of the past behind them ....  Would love Olivia to perform full concert at Carpenter Center over next two years ....that would be wonderful  Peter |
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Post by Rick Henry on Feb 1, 2005 22:44:59 GMT -5
$% That would be wonderful if Olivia were to perform at the Long Beach Carpenter Center. I would attend that concert.  |
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Post by YesterdayOnceMore on Feb 9, 2005 14:49:45 GMT -5
$% Hi everyone Go to Richard's website. An interesting topic, and timely as Richard has something very nice to say about Olivia. I believe that the question was posed something like "Were Olivia and Karen really as close as Ray Coleman painted them out to be in his book" and Richard responds that they were, indeed, and that HE considered Olivia a good friend. Hmmmmm........ Best, Tim |
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Post by Moe on Feb 10, 2005 11:11:06 GMT -5
I caught that, too. I wondered if they are not friends now due to Karen being gone, or just that they don't keep in touch and have drifted away.
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