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Post by Federico Cruz on Oct 5, 2004 18:24:44 GMT -5
I was searching in the net and found this:
Greenday - Basket Case Lyrics Do you have the time to listen to me whine About NOTHING and EVERYTHING all at once I am one of those Melodramatic fools Neurotic to the bone No doubt about it
Sometimes I give myself the CREEPS Sometimes my mind plays tricks on me It all keeps adding up I think I'm CRACKING UP Am I just PARANOID? Or am I just STONED
I went to a shrink To analyze my dreams SHE says it's lack of sex that's bringing me down I went to a sleeper HE said my life's a bore So quit my whining cause it's bringing HER down
Sometimes I give myself the CREEPS Sometimes my mind plays tricks on me It all keeps adding up I think I'm CRACKING UP Am I just PARANOID? Uh,yuh,yuh,ya
Grasping to CONTROL So I BETTER hold on
Sometimes I give myself the CREEPS Sometimes my mind plays tricks on me It all keeps adding up I think I'm CRACKING UP Am I just PARANOID? Or am I just STONED
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Post by Rick Henry on Oct 5, 2004 21:07:27 GMT -5
Hi Federico, thanks for the lyrics. But this song is not the same as the one that Karen recorded for her solo album. This one is by Green Day written by the members of Green Day around 1992 and was released in 1994.
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Post by Mariah Andrews on Oct 5, 2004 22:22:04 GMT -5
Green Day is another one of my favorite bands, and I remember playing this very same song at a 1996 concert back in Rancho Mirage, CA where I played guitar backing an Elvis act. But this song I was rehearsing with some kids who were singing this tune and they wanted me to jam with them, so I sang this "Basket Case" song from the Dookie album.
No, these are not the kind of lyrics Karen or Richard would sing, but if they were around today, what would they think about stuff like this?
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Post by Rick Henry on Oct 6, 2004 0:10:42 GMT -5
Green Day is another one of my favorite bands, and I remember playing this very same song at a 1996 concert back in Rancho Mirage, CA where I played guitar backing an Elvis act. But this song I was rehearsing with some kids who were singing this tune and they wanted me to jam with them, so I sang this "Basket Case" song from the Dookie album. No, these are not the kind of lyrics Karen or Richard would sing, but if they were around today, what would they think about stuff like this? Seeing Richard has said he is a fan of Frank Zappa anything is possible. Could be Richard might like Green Day. Karen on the other hand mentioned that she thought the Rolling Stones were too raucous, so I don't think Karen would like Green Day - but who knows.
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Post by beaner on Oct 6, 2004 5:31:02 GMT -5
Rick, do you have the words to the "Basket Case" that Karen did. As yet, I've not been able to hear a few of the missing songs (about 2 or 3 of them I think).
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Post by Rick Henry on Oct 6, 2004 10:53:35 GMT -5
Hi beaner, no I don't have the lyrics to that song. The two missing solo songs "Church Choir (Wild)" and "Basket Case" were not leaked to the internet with the other 9 unreleased solo songs for some reason. Could be whoever leaked the other songs just didn't have these two in their possesion.
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Post by JIM on Oct 13, 2004 5:52:00 GMT -5
HI All! I have been so intrigued by the titles of these songs,that I have searched 6 or 7 archives of published Lyrics and/or sheet music, with no results. I also posted this question at A&M corner and it was not well recieved. Enigma has discovered that these two songs are catalouged by A&M, so it would seem that they exist. However the moderator at A&M gave a possible explanation that made a lot of sense. He said that it is possible that these were backing tracks that were shelved while the album was in production and the tapes where given crazy lables such as Baket Case, which could have reflected there state of mind after a long day of recording. I guess this is possible but I don't think that A&M would have catalogued backing tracks but since I donn't work in the recording industry. its hard to say. However I am certain that I would love to hear Karens voice on anything, No matter how Richard feels about it. JIM
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Post by Rick Henry on Oct 13, 2004 7:20:41 GMT -5
Hi Jim, that theory of why the song is called "Basket Case" could be a possiblity. But I tend to agree more with you. Why would A&M catalog a backing track. From what I recall reading is that Karen recorded enough songs to make release a double album. as I believe originally that's what it was going to be. So if there were enough songs for a double album there would have been something like 20 songs completed plus maybe three to five songs that were outtakes (meaning completed but not chosen for the album). My theory is that there must be around atleast 20-25 solo songs total. So far 12 songs have been released, with 9 unreleased tracks leaked to the public. That makes a total of 21 songs that we know of for certain. In my theory there's a possiblity of another three or four songs.
Another thing to remember about the solo album is that after it was supposedly completed Karen went back into the studio to do more mixing and rerecording. There could have been even more songs recorded at that time.
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Post by enigma on Oct 13, 2004 7:24:37 GMT -5
Hi Jim I agree that anything that Karen recorded should be released. I found a list called burried treasures that has all the known (or suspected) unreleased Carpenters songs that have Karens lead vocal on them I could not believe the number of songs on the list and the list seems to be legit. I do not think any solo sessions are on this list but with the amount of songs on there some may be solo recordings but no Basket Case or Wild/Church Choir were on the list which leads me to suspect they are all Carpenters songs. As far as the catalogue number I only have the word of my source to go on no official confirmation from A&M or Universal as to whether they even have a number. I just believe the guy who told me as he seems to be very knowlegable on everything Carpenters and he has been dead on so far. Maybe Phil Ramone has a web site or contact address and can at least say if these or other songs exist but he has been known to shy away from Karens solo record enquiries for some reason. BTW someone from another forum apparently contacted a band member that played on Karens solo record and he does not recall playing on any songs with those titles but it was almost 25 years ago so he may have forgotton. The mystery continues...
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Post by JIM on Oct 13, 2004 7:57:45 GMT -5
Wow Rick 9 unheard songs! That is something to put on my wish list!
Hi Enigma. I have seen that list and all of the titles sound like they would be so great but I have a feeling most of them will never find there way to a release due to RC's feelings about what he deems substandard material. It would be cool if in the future RC makes this material available for fans but somehow I can't see that happening either. As far as the catalogued material, at one time Grant Gurrero's site had them listed as unreleased material catalogued by A&M and his site is quite accurate. However the last time I managed Grants site with information he had on the titles, access to the site denied. So this can only lead one to the conclusion that something is up! This is truly a mystery monster!
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Post by Rick Henry on Oct 13, 2004 17:56:58 GMT -5
I have a list which I will post on this thread of unreleased songs. this list is compiled of songs I've seen on other sites and also seen in the original Carpenters fan club newsletters. I'll have to do this later on tonight or tomorrow.
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Post by Rick Henry on Oct 13, 2004 20:23:03 GMT -5
A lot of these songs are listed in the article Buried Treasures which was written by Jerry Crenshaw, I believe in 1983. Several of these songs are supposedly catalogued with A&M records. I also listed a few live performances, early recordings, songs from televison specials, and some of Karen's unreleased solo songs.
All My Life Ain't Misbehavin All The Way All Good Things I Remember And When I Die (Cal State Long Beach recording) Auld Lang Syne Basket Case (Karen solo) Better World Can't Buy Me Love (from"Your Navy Presents) Christmas Alphabet (w/ Kristy McNichol) Church Choir (Wild) (Karen solo) Cinderella Rockefella (duet w/ Doug Strawn?) Close To You (Spike Jones style) Come And Be Kind Crescent Noon (Cal State Long Beach recording) Dancing In The Street (full length studio recording done during "Christmas Portrait" sessions) Don't Leave Me Don't Try To Win Me Back Again (Karen solo) Fallin' For Love For The Minute Funny Faces How High The Moon Hurting I Believe In You I Can't Smile I Can't Stay Mad At You I Do It for Your Love (Karen solo) I Don't Need You I Fell In Love With You (from "Your Navy Presents) I Finally Got It Right This Time I'll Be Yours It's Really You (Karen solo) Jimmy Mack (Karen solo) Just Fall In Love Just Somebody Keep My Love Light Burning (Karen solo) Last of the Romantics Lately Lord's Prayer Love Is Coming Back Love Making Love To You (Karen solo) Love Me Like The First Time Love Song Love You Through and Though Mad Magic In The Music Man Smart, Woman Smarter (with Suzanne Somers) Midnight (Karen solo) Once In A Lifetime Play A Simple Melody Peter Pan Moon Rainbows In Your Eyes Real Love Runaway Savin' It Up Sebastion Second Thought Slaughter On 10th Ave (instrumental) Slow Dance--79 Some Guys Have All The Luck Something's Missing (Karen solo) Stay Young Stop Me Sunday Afternoon Sweet Talkin' Guy Thank You For The Music (studio recording) Thank You For The Music (live recording) The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress These Are The Jokes Folks (from first televison special) Truly You (Karen solo) Try To Win A Friend A Wedding Prayer We Won't Be Back Tomorrow What Are You Doing For Love Where Is Love Why Don't They Understand You Made Me Feel Love You're Just In Love (w/ John Davidson) You'll Never Know Yours Sincerely
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Post by karen69roland on Oct 13, 2004 23:14:34 GMT -5
Hi...
I just included the year the songs were supposingly recorded beside the titles and I added a couple more songs..., I wanted to share those songs for quite some time..., but, just couldn't find the time for it..., sorry.
My source is Yuko Ogura's Mook for some and my Carpenters video collection for others(I've not included some songs 'cause I don't know the EXACT title)..., songs that have no dates are song that I have on CD, but, don't know the exact dates or songs that the Mook don't show the dates...
All My Life - 81 Ain't Misbehavin - 83 All The Way - 79 All Good Things I Remember - 81 And When He Smiles - 71 - Live At The BBC And When I Die(Long Beach State College recording) Auld Lang Syne - 79 Basket Case (Karen solo) Better World - 79 Can't Buy Me Love(*Your Navy Presents*) Christmas Alphabet(Duet with Kristy McNichol)- 78 - A Christmas Portrait, TV Special Church Choir(Wild)?? (Karen solo) Cinderella Rockefella(duet with Doug Strawn) Close To You(Spike Jones style) - 76 - The Carpenters Very First Television Special Come And Be Kind - 77 Crescent Noon (Cal State Long Beach recording) Dancing In The Street (full length studio recording done during "Christmas Portrait" sessions) Don't Leave Me - Don't Try To Win Me Back Again (Karen solo) Fallin' For Love - 82 Fool Me - 82 - Richard on vocals For The Minute Funny Faces - 79 Good Vibrations - 76 - Karen and John Denver duet How High The Moon - 83 Hurting - 75 I Believe In You I Can't Smile - 77 I Can't Stay Mad At You - 77 I Do It for Your Love (Karen solo) I Don't Need You - 79 I Don't want My Arms Around You - 80 I Fell In Love With You (from "Your Navy Presents) I Finally Got It Right This Time - 77 I'll Be Seeing You - 79 It's Really You (Karen solo) Jimmy Mack (Karen solo) Just Fall In Love - 78 Just Somebody Keep The Love Light Burning (Karen solo) Last of the Romantics Lately - 79 Lord's Prayer - 83 Love As Old As The Heart - 83 - (RC) Love Is Coming Back - 75 Love Making Love To You (Karen solo) Love Me Like The First Time - 79 Love Song - 78 Love You Through and Though - 82 Mad - 79 Magic In The Music - 76 Man Smart, Woman Smarter(duet with Suzanne Somers) - 78 - Space Encounters, TV Special Midnight (Karen solo) Once In A Lifetime - 81 Play A Simple Melody - 80 Peter Pan Moon - 80 Rainbows In Your Eyes - 79 Real Love - 77 Runaway - 77 Savin' It Up For The Minute - 77 Sebastian Second Thoughts - 77 Slaughter On 10th Ave - 83 Slow Dance - 79 Some Guys Have All The Luck - 82 Something's Missing (Karen solo) Stay Young - 77 Stop Me - 82 Strike Up The Band(Karen's drum solo) - 76 - The Carpenters Very First Television Special Sunday Afternoon Sweet Talkin' Guy - 80 Thank You For The Music(studio recording) - 79 Thank You For The Music(live recording) - 78 - The Tonight Show(with John Davidson) The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress - 80 These Are The Jokes Folks - 76 - The Carpenters very First Television Special Truly You (Karen solo) Try To Win A Friend - 75 A Wedding Prayer - 83 We Won't Be Back Tomorrow - 77 What Are You Doing For Love - 79 Where Is Love - 75 Why Don't They Understand You Made Me Feel Love - 80 You're Just In Love - 80 You'll Never Know - 83 Yours Sincerely - 79 [glow=red,2,300][/glow][shadow=red,left,300] [/shadow][shadow=red,left,300]Roland Chayer[/shadow][shadow=red,left,300] [/shadow]
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Post by JIM on Oct 13, 2004 23:55:52 GMT -5
Wow Rick and Roland! Thanks for providing these great lists. I have seen the buried treasures list but never the list provided by Sukura for Roland! I read that at one time Richard said in an interview that there was enough material in the vaults for two complete albums. It would be such a dream come true if we were blessed with one more album. JIM
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Post by karen69roland on Oct 14, 2004 1:22:53 GMT -5
Hi Jim...
Richard is still young..., I'm sure we'll have something new one day..., I have a good feeling for that. [glow=red,2,300][/glow][shadow=red,left,300] [/shadow][shadow=red,left,300]Roland Chayer[/shadow][shadow=red,left,300] [/shadow]
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Post by Rick Henry on Oct 14, 2004 3:19:33 GMT -5
Both these lists that roland and I posted have an extra 9 or 10 songs beyond the Buried Treasure list. although Roland on your list you mentioned "slow Dance" which was released in 1989 on the "Lovelines" Cd and also "Strike up The band" which is on the "Live At the Palladium" disc. I guess there are most likely several different recordings of "Strike Up The Band"
I didn't include the Richard lead vocal recordings on my list.
Isn't "I'll Be seeing You" part of the Karen/Ella Medley?
It would be great to have another release of unreleased songs. I really hope Richard does put out another disc.
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Post by karen69roland on Oct 14, 2004 3:50:17 GMT -5
Hi...
Rick, what I did was copy your list, paste it and then make the adjustments by comparing with the Mook and my videos list.
So, *Slow Dance* is on mine because it is on yours..., 'cause it's not on the Mook's.
*Strike Up The Band* must be *The Carpenters Very First Television Special* '76 studio version.
Maybe *I'll Be Seeing You* is a version with Karen on vocals because on the 1980 *Music Music Music* television special(and *AsTime Goes By*) it is Ella who sings the *I'll Be Seeing You* part. [glow=red,2,300][/glow][shadow=red,left,300] [/shadow][shadow=red,left,300]Roland Chayer[/shadow][shadow=red,left,300] [/shadow]
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Post by Peteruk on Oct 14, 2004 18:26:41 GMT -5
Basket Case & Church Wild could well be incomplete tracks in their own right or other songs written by Karen's house band and never finished ..... There are some backing tracks only -no leads -within Carpenters A&M Archive ...Richard has confirmed several songs were never taken to Karen work lead stage or even Richard lead ....so both above tracks could be late Ramone instrumentals ....and left off the bootlegged unissued Karen solo tapes .... Peter
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