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Post by Rick Henry on Sept 9, 2004 10:37:45 GMT -5
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Post by enigma on Sept 9, 2004 10:56:51 GMT -5
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Post by karen69roland on Sept 9, 2004 13:23:05 GMT -5
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Post by Sammy on Sept 9, 2004 15:22:38 GMT -5
Something funky like Early In The Morning by the Gap Band
Something beautiful like Touch Me In The Morning by Diana Ross
Something country like On The Road Again by Willie Nelson
these are just a few ideas
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Post by Rick Henry on Sept 10, 2004 10:04:51 GMT -5
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Post by Rick Henry on Sept 17, 2004 21:42:20 GMT -5
I guess I really like this topic, I keep coming back to it.
This one may seem strange but I could hear Karen (Carpenters) doing a somewhat smoky jazzy power-pop recording of Steely Dan's "Reeling In The Years", Tony Peluso could perform one of his trademark guitar solos here.
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Post by karen69roland on Sept 17, 2004 21:56:50 GMT -5
Yeah, *Steely Dan* is in my *Top 10 artists/bands*...
The Carpenters with songs like the *KFRC Radio commercial*, *Road Ode*, *All You Get From Love Is A Love Song* and *B'Wana She No Home*..., fit in that same category.[glow=red,2,300][/glow][shadow=red,left,300] [/shadow][shadow=red,left,300]Roland C.[/shadow][shadow=red,left,300] [/shadow]
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Post by smoothie2 on Sept 18, 2004 0:02:07 GMT -5
???Don't know if anyone's mentioned it..but Rosemary clooney's "Come-On-a My House"is kinda fun song...from way back when...and Simon and Garfunkel's "Feelin' Groovy" and Linda Ronstadt ..."Somewhere Out There"....guess I kinda overdid it, but those come to mind... I think that overall, and judging from all the great input from everyone, we all feel that there were many songs the C's and or Karen alone could have sung. This is cuz of her dynamic versatile voice! We LOVE YOU...AlwayS KAREN! If I make it up to heaven, I hope you're singing!
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Post by karen69roland on Sept 18, 2004 3:13:36 GMT -5
Yeah, *Steely Dan* is in my *Top 10 artists/bands*...
The Carpenters with songs like the *KFRC Radio commercial*, *Road Ode*, *All You Get From Love Is A Love Song* and *B'Wana She No Home*..., fit in that same category.[glow=red,2,300][/glow][shadow=red,left,300] [/shadow][shadow=red,left,300]Roland C.[/shadow][shadow=red,left,300] [/shadow] Of course, I was talking of the *Steely Dan* with a jazzier feel. The Carpenters and Steely Dan shared a lot of *studio musicians* including Hal Blaine(drums), Chuck Findley(trumpet), Tom Scott(sax), Lee Ritenour(guitar) and Jim Gordon(drums). [glow=red,2,300][/glow][shadow=red,left,300] [/shadow][shadow=red,left,300]Roland C.[/shadow][shadow=red,left,300] [/shadow]
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Post by cam83 on Sept 18, 2004 18:31:27 GMT -5
Hi Everyone. I also wish she had done
Constant Craving
Evergreen
It's My Turn
The Star Spangled Banner
O Canada
Somewhere Over The Rainbow
Without You
All By Myself
The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face
Smile
The Way He Makes Me Feel
My guesses, Cameron
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Post by karen69roland on Sept 18, 2004 20:22:09 GMT -5
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Post by JIM on Sept 18, 2004 20:26:14 GMT -5
Wow Roland Can You imagine if the C's had done a Bond theme that would have been really wild! Smoothie mentions Helen Ready and I would have loved to hear Karen siging You And Me Against The World. In the begining of this thread that could circle the globe by now Enigma mentions her love for country tunes. Which made me think of a Marie Osmond country song Meet Me In Montana. It was a duet but I can't remember with who. It would have made such a great song for Karen. Does anyone else remember this song? JIM
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Post by Rick Henry on Sept 18, 2004 21:09:48 GMT -5
Carpenters doing a James Bond theme would have been fantastic. it's too bad they never had the chance to do one. But, I think the possiblity of releasing one of their unreleased songs as a Bond theme on an upcoming Bond movie could be done. "Midnight" from Karen's unreleased solo could make an interesting Bond theme.
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Post by JIM on Sept 18, 2004 21:37:45 GMT -5
Hey Rick I think your on to something. I have been studying the last two measures of this song trying to duplicate the keyboard pogression. Its is so smooth and Jazzy I find it so interesting. With a little remixing this song could be a real gem! Remember a long time ago you were working on a plan to get Karen back in the media spot light? A song like this could be the ticket if RC is willing to entertain its release. JIM
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Post by Rick Henry on Sept 19, 2004 12:27:10 GMT -5
That's interesting Dave, but I don't know about that, because from what I've heard it's the other way around. Especially for a group like the Carpenters whose albums sold (and still sell) multi-millions around the world. By 1971 both Karen and Richard were millionaires. This was just as they had started becoming a headline act on tour, so you know it wasn't touring where they made their millions in 1970 and 71. And an album like "Single 1969-1973" which has probably sold something like 25 million worldwide has certainly put multi-millions into Richard's bank account. Richard does not tour anymore, but you know he's got to still be bringing in a few million dollars each year from sales of CD's, cassettes, videos, DVD's, books, and royalties from other artists recording songs he has written.
From what I've heard popular artists tour primarily to generate sales of their albums (discs).
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Post by enigma on Sept 19, 2004 15:26:43 GMT -5
Absolutely Rick but it depends on the type of contract an artist signs Prince had a lengthy battle with Warner Bros over rights to his own music though he probably got alot of money from royalties. Another example Steve Miller apparently gets enough money off royalties from his emensely popular greatest hits collection (as well as his back catalogue) so he does not have to record or tour ever again and Richard is likely in the same boat. Richard actually was recieving huge cheques in the early 70's (he said he had never seen so many zeros on a cheque) and the money was not from touring it was from producing and writing. Clints deal may not be as favorable and he generally does not write and produce his own music like Richard and Steve did which may account for his reliance on touring for revenue.
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Post by Rob813 on Sept 19, 2004 19:58:40 GMT -5
I agree with you Rick. Karen and Richard were already millionaires by 1971 so it couldn't have been by touring. I think Prince was upset by not owning the rights to his songs. I don't think it had much to do with dollars. I believe each artist has a different contract with their studio. Richard has his own company called Hammer and Nails Corp. where I'm sure he holds the rights to all HIS songs. That's probably why you don't see the Carpenters on an anthology albums. Richard fiercely controls the rights to the Carpenters music. As far as promotion goes, A&M records has ALWAYS done a terrible job of promoting anything to do with the Carpenters. I find this strange considering Herb Albert's love of Karen and Richard and their artistry. Jerry Moss, on the other hand, is much less enthusiastic about their music. I wonder if Herb and Jerry ever actually spoke with each other! Either way, A&M did little to "sell" the Carpenters. The reason why their music sold was because it was and is extraordinary! Anything less, like Richard's solo work and his production of Scott Grimes and who knows who else has been less than spectacular. I don't understand Richard's devotion to A&M and now Universal. Richard may be an extraordinary arranger, producer and song writer, but he's not a top notch business man! Maybe it has something to do with Karen and Richard's perenial gratitude to the music industry for being allowed to even record and have a career. Who else was or is THAT grateful to even be "invited to the party".
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Post by Rick Henry on Sept 20, 2004 0:32:18 GMT -5
I agree with you Rick. Karen and Richard were already millionaires by 1971 so it couldn't have been by touring. I think Prince was upset by not owning the rights to his songs. I don't think it had much to do with dollars. Yeah the Prince thing has more to do with Prince owning what is rightfully his. Prince makes so much money from his disc sales whether he tours or not. Richard has his own company called Hammer and Nails Corp. where I'm sure he holds the rights to all HIS songs. That's probably why you don't see the Carpenters on an anthology albums. Yep, you never see Carpenters music on any Best of the 70's anthologies or compilations or any other various artists collections like that. As far as promotion goes, A&M records has ALWAYS done a terrible job of promoting anything to do with the Carpenters. A&M did little to "sell" the Carpenters. The reason why their music sold was because it was and is extraordinary! ". Could you imagine how much more the Carpenters would have sold if they were properly promoted and if album covers and promo shoots didn't portray them as being the "pepsident twins".
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