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Post by Rob813 on Jun 30, 2004 17:37:21 GMT -5
Cam, you are amazing. Your creativity and devotion to all things Karen blow my mind. Thanks for being you.
Rob
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Post by Moe on Jul 1, 2004 2:32:18 GMT -5
Why I am thinking about a Christmas song in July is beyond me.... but I think "Christmas time is here" from the Charlie Brown Christmas special would be another Christmas classic for the Carpenters. Cam-I love the idea of an inspirational CD from the Carpenters. Some hymns like "Amazing Grace" and "Just a closer walk with Thee" along with songs like "Bridge over troubled water" and "Let it Be."
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Post by JIM on Jul 1, 2004 9:15:27 GMT -5
I am a Carpenters fan for life and I treasure every note we were given by Karen and Richard. So I hope my post does not sound critisizing in any way. We have mentioned so many fantastic songs that existed while they were still at the top. So I wonder why they were overlooked by Richard. They could have filled albums with hits from start to finsish. Was it A&M or Richard expressing what he found interesting as an artist. I live with a professional musician and I hear songs I think he could perform that would really wow an audience! He tells me he plays from the heart and some of the songs I beg him to play just don't reach him where it counts, the heart. I just wonder if it was the same for Richard.
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Post by Rob813 on Jul 1, 2004 14:34:31 GMT -5
Dave: I visited the site and found 33 lyrics for Carpenter songs. Did I miss something?
Rob(813)
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Post by JIM on Jul 1, 2004 18:03:16 GMT -5
Dave I wish there were 183 songs recorded by the Carpenters but I went to the site and all lyrics are from songs that are on albums that have been released. I do beleive there is are enough great unreleased recordings out there that could be fine tuned and released on an album. I cry every time I buy another compilation but if there is a Carpenters logo on it I have to buy it. There are those who say if Richard releases an album of unreleased material that does not reflect the standards of there former hit producing albums that it hurts the cataloged releases. Also there is the matter of will it generate enough money for Universal if produced and released. Well Yinz guys I am rambaling now and I could talk about the Carpenters until the sun explodes. JIM
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Post by JIM on Jul 3, 2004 18:50:43 GMT -5
Hey Yinz Guys! A word of advice. It seems, at least here in S. Florida that it is getting harder to find the original albums in any store. I recently had to replace A Song For You and every store I went to I could only find compilations and boxed sets. If you go to Amazon they have every album in print.and you have a choice of buying the CD new or used. It really beats running all over tahn looking for the albums you don't have. This thread started with what song would you have liked Karen to record and today I heard Beverly Bremmer singing Don't Say You Don't Remeber. What a great torch song for Karen. The 60's and 70's had the greatest songs!! I don't know if its part of getting older but the music today as far as top 40 is a bunch of junk. JIM
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Post by Rick Henry on Jul 3, 2004 22:59:32 GMT -5
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Post by smoothie2 on Jul 7, 2004 23:39:49 GMT -5
I think Karen had something in common with the Hispanic singer Selena. Until I watched the movie about Selena, I did not know that she's the one who sang "I Could Fall in Love With You". Selena was a free spirit and also died tragically and was very young. From that movie, I learned that Selena opened up a new road in Spanish or Mexican music...at the time, there were few if any Hispanic singers who sang mostly on their own. Anyway, I learned even more about how hard it is to be successful in the music business.
If Karen were still with us today, she surely would find that there is a wider variety and styles of music since the 80's. I think she could still be singing and or helping new artists find their way. She could have done well singing that one by Supertramp..."Take the Long Way Home".
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Post by Rob813 on Jul 10, 2004 16:55:41 GMT -5
Wow Dave those lyrics are so powerful. I'm sure Karen could have taken this song and with her phrasing and emotional power seared it into our hearts. Thanks for sharing it with us.
Rob
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Post by Rick Henry on Jul 28, 2004 19:33:26 GMT -5
I always thought the Carpenters should have recorded more Carole King songs, such as; "Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow", "You've Got a Friend", "Jazzman", "Nightengale" and "Up On The Roof". But I do love the two C. King songs they recorded, "One Fine Day" and "It's Going To Take Sometime".
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Post by Rob813 on Jul 28, 2004 23:34:27 GMT -5
Rick: I never thought of those other Carole King songs. Your knowledge of music is incredible. I am not a big fan of "It's Going To Take Some Time". It just grates on me. Anyway, those other songs just may have been terrific - we can dream, can't we. (No pun intended!)
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Post by smoothie2 on Jul 29, 2004 0:28:39 GMT -5
Dave I'm not familiar with the guy you mentioned...David B....but I looked up that link and read the words to that song...sounds like a very sad song and that seems to be a place that Karen most connected up with. Of course, she could sing anything and make it sound great. I wouldn't have minded hearing the C's sing "Muskrat Love" which was done by Captain and Tennille, and also by them "Love will Keep Us Together". Dottie West sang one called "Fool Hearted Man", and even though Dottie's type of singing was more of a hard edge...I think the rhythm, beat and lyrics could have been interesting to hear from Karen. The chorus to that is something like "It's like you to love 'em and leave 'em...it's like you to do that sort of thing...you're a fool hearted man. ...Somebody's gonna teach you a lesson and I hope that I'm around, to see 'em knock you down..." I like all the ones you mentioned also Rick. I think another would be..."Blue Skys"...recorded by at least Willie Nelson..."blue skys smilin' on me..nothin' but blue skys do I see. and so I rambled again.................
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Post by cam83 on Jul 29, 2004 0:36:07 GMT -5
Other songs Karen could have done is NOW AND FOREVER, TIME DON'T RUN OUT ON ME, IF I EVER FALL IN LOVE AGAIN, JUST ANOTHER WOMAN IN LOVE by Anne Murray.
Also by Dottie West, a Country smoking alto singer sang BLUE AS I WANT TO, COUNTRY SUNSHINE and a duet with Kenny Rogers, EVERYTIME TWO FOOLS COLLIDE. When you think of it, it is a darn shame that Kenny and Karen never did a duet during the late 70's early 80's, as he had a lot of hit singles with female singers for DUETS.
My thoughts, Cam
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Post by JIM on Jul 29, 2004 0:43:59 GMT -5
Wow! Jazzman thats a song I have not heard in ages but what a great choice! I think this thread is so long that I have probably mentioned One Less Bell To Awnser. Another one that I am trying to imagine Karens voice on is Art Garfunkels Since I don't Have You but Jazzman I love the horn parts O.K. one more the list is infinite but England Dan and John Ford Coleys I'd Really Love To See You Tonight and Nights Are Forever With Out You. Bottom line Karen could make Row Row Row You Boat gold. JIM
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Post by JIM on Jul 29, 2004 10:07:00 GMT -5
Hey Smoothie2! I was going over longest thread history or maybe its not. Rick, is this thread reaching any kind of historical significance? Smoothie2 have you ever heard Amricas version of Muskrat Love? I like Tonis better but Americas is worth checking if you have a chance. Another thought that had crossed a few of the synapses I have and maybe this should be in a thread of its own but songs that Richard should have recorded. I guess the reason I had this thought is because America The Captain and Tennile, The Beach Boys and Art Garfunkel have all covered Disney Girls. I think that would have made a great Carpenters cover with Richard on lead vocal. Hey and its still early!
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Post by Rob813 on Jul 29, 2004 15:16:34 GMT -5
I don't think Richard would have released anything with him in the lead as a single. It seems that after "A Song For You" he stopped singing lead. Maybe he was too busy or just knew the public only wanted Karen in the lead. Seems to me he was very sensitive to the public's taste and needs at the time. Ironically, it was only after his Quallude problem that his judgement became somewhat clouded. I like what Richard says on Carpenters Gold collection - that had Karen had lived, their careers would have assended again. He says they had only just begun (sorry) to hit their stride as artists. By the way, I started this topic way back when. I never imagined it would be this popular. It just struck a responsive chord with everybody. I've enjoyed everyone's choices. I could never have imagined all of them by myself. Thanks for allowing my imagination to soar again!
Rob
P.S. I was imagining possible lyrics for Richard's instrumental song " Karen's Theme". It's a bitter/sweet tribute to Karen. Perhaps he could have gotten Olivia Newton John (I wonder why she has never spoken about Karen's death), Dionne Warwick or Dusty Springfield (of course before her death) to have tried out the lyrics. John Bettis could have done a spectacular job of expressing his/our love for Karen. We love you Karen.
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Post by JIM on Jul 29, 2004 17:20:22 GMT -5
Man Dave. I was unaware that Dusty Springfield had past away. I was going to ask if you had ever heard Something In Your Eyes from Richards 87 solo album. Boy how sad. JIM
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Post by Rick Henry on Jul 30, 2004 3:00:30 GMT -5
Yes, Dusty passed away a few years back. She was truly a gifted vocalist and loved her vocals on "Something In Your Eyes" from Richard's solo album "Time". My favorite of all of Dusty's songs is "The Look Of Love", which I feel would have been a natural for the Carpenters (I know I mentioned this song earlier in this thread). p.s. Cam this thread has the distinction of having the second most posts.
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