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Post by Rick Henry on May 30, 2005 0:30:26 GMT -5
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Post by enigma on May 30, 2005 2:20:41 GMT -5
wow Rick what a great selection of songs! I could easily have picked all these song as my favorite they are all so great. It was difficult to pick one selection but I ultimately went with You after a good deal of thought. I chose You because it is such a beautiful song both musically and lyrically it was a bit of a departure from other Carpenters songs more of a straight forward pop song than the haunting ballads Karen is well known for. Any of these songs could be called a favorite but I had to go with You I just love this song!
KAC Fan 4 Life!!!!
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Post by Ming on May 30, 2005 4:45:01 GMT -5
I love all of them .But I think Let me be the one is the best. This song should be a single.
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Post by karen69roland on May 30, 2005 6:16:58 GMT -5
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Post by YesterdayOnceMore on May 30, 2005 9:00:20 GMT -5
Very tough call - each of them are truly deserving of being a single - so I just went with my all time fave, Masquerade. I think each of them could have easily been hits as a single.. Great topic, Rick. Tim
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Post by Rick Henry on May 30, 2005 9:40:03 GMT -5
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Post by cam83 on May 30, 2005 15:07:11 GMT -5
I chose I JUST FALL IN LOVE AGAIN. Great song. IF it was a hit(Top 10) for Anne Murray, it could have been top FIVE for Karen. Her reading...is a touch classier(although I love Anne's work). Karen would have had another ADULT CONTEMPORARY Number One hit...
Cam
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Post by Moe on May 30, 2005 19:43:04 GMT -5
I think all of these were potential hits. I think "Let me be the one" would have been a hit for sure, because the song is great and the Carpenters were red hot at the time. It still could have been a hit if released after "Superstar." "I just fall in love again" is also awesome, but since the Carpenters were not radio darlings at the time, it may have not made it. I love Anne Murray, but Karen brings a whole other life to the song. That being said....my choice is "Desperado." This is a classic song, the Carpenters did a bang up job with it, and they were still big on radio. I don't know if it would have matched "Let me be the one," but really would have liked to have seen the chart and sales results. my 2 cents...
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Post by Rick Henry on May 30, 2005 21:22:22 GMT -5
I think all of these were potential hits. I think "Let me be the one" would have been a hit for sure, because the song is great and the Carpenters were red hot at the time. It still could have been a hit if released after "Superstar." "I just fall in love again" is also awesome, but since the Carpenters were not radio darlings at the time, it may have not made it. I love Anne Murray, but Karen brings a whole other life to the song. That being said....my choice is "Desperado." This is a classic song, the Carpenters did a bang up job with it, and they were still big on radio. I don't know if it would have matched "Let me be the one," but really would have liked to have seen the chart and sales results. my 2 cents... I chose I JUST FALL IN LOVE AGAIN. Great song. IF it was a hit(Top 10) for Anne Murray, it could have been top FIVE for Karen. Her reading...is a touch classier(although I love Anne's work). Karen would have had another ADULT CONTEMPORARY Number One hit... Cam Moe and Cam, you both have valid points about the Carpenters' recording of "I Just Fall In Love Again". Karen's vocal on their recording is far superior to Anne Murray's reading. And the musical arrangement of Carpenters recording is also far superior to Murray's recording. The maestro Peter Knight penned this outstanding arrangement and orchestration. As for chart positions Anne Murray reached #12 in the U.S. I want to say Carpenters could have taken the song higher like maybe #7. But as Moe states at this point in time Carpenters were not receiving the airplay they once received. But that could be because of their choice of singles from late 1976 to early 1978. As much as I love "Goofus" it really was not material for radio airplay. Same with "Calling Occupants...", a great song but not if you want major radio airplay. "I Just Fall In Love Again" I feel would have brought back the airplay for Carpenters. First because it's such an outstanding song. Being a power ballad it would have been a lot easier to program this into popular radio airplay than the songs that were released as singles. with all that said my favorite missed hit is "Desperado". I remember when "Horizon" was released the critics loved "Desperado". It was almost expected to be a single.
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Post by enigma on May 31, 2005 7:16:31 GMT -5
I like you guys points about Desperado. I felt as Richard did that ther were 2 good versions of the song done already before the Carpenters which may be why Richard opted not to release it as a single, I also thought the Eagles did such a great job on the song its still my favorite version. However when Karen got hold of the song her interpretaion, her voice and her reading of the song gave it its own life. If they had put it on AKOH or passage and released it as a single it probably would have been better in 1975 it would have suffered from the other 2 versions being released dispite the great job Karen did with it. Just some thoughts.
KAC Fan 4 Life!!!!
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Post by beaner on May 31, 2005 18:54:47 GMT -5
It was a close one between "Let Me Be The One" and "This Masquerade" but I'd have to say that for me, "This Masquerade" is it.
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Post by Rick Henry on May 31, 2005 22:20:39 GMT -5
I like you guys points about Desperado. I felt as Richard did that ther were 2 good versions of the song done already before the Carpenters which may be why Richard opted not to release it as a single, I also thought the Eagles did such a great job on the song its still my favorite version. However when Karen got hold of the song her interpretaion, her voice and her reading of the song gave it its own life. If they had put it on AKOH or passage and released it as a single it probably would have been better in 1975 it would have suffered from the other 2 versions being released dispite the great job Karen did with it. Just some thoughts. KAC Fan 4 Life!!!! I think if "Desperado" were released as a single it would have atleast performed as well as "Solitaire" did on the chart. I think it would have even done better making it to the lower top ten like #9 or 10. I feel this because "Desperado" did get many favorable reviews by several critics in it's day. The favorable buzz definitely would have made it to radio programmers thus more airplay for the song. More airplay equals more sales. I think since the song was already familiar, and a well loved song, it would have garnered more attention creating more sales. This is just my theory. Funny as great as the song is and as many excellent recordings of the song there were (Bonnie Raitt and Kenny Rogers are two other artists who have done the song). Nobody released it as a single (in the U.S. anyway).
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Post by smoothie2 on May 31, 2005 23:14:18 GMT -5
Indeed all of these are top rate songs and could have done very well as singles. Yes, tough choice. I was caught between,This masquerade, You, and A Song For you...but went with A S. For You. I love A. Murray and Eagles versions of songs mentioned also. But like Karen's versions better.
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Post by JIM on Jun 3, 2005 23:49:04 GMT -5
???Masqarade is my choice.
Jim
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Post by karen69roland on Jun 4, 2005 12:47:47 GMT -5
Hmmm..., *This Masquerade* should have been up to 2 with Jim's vote, but, instead, it's *Desperado* who got a third vote. [glow=red,2,300][/glow][shadow=red,left,300] [/shadow][shadow=red,left,300]Roland Chayer[/shadow][shadow=red,left,300] [/shadow]
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Post by beaner on Jun 4, 2005 13:22:57 GMT -5
I voted already but one that's not there that I would have wanted to see as a hit is "And When He Smiles". I really have gotten to like that tune a lot and I would have loved to see Karen behind the drums enjoying that part of her many talents.
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Post by Rick Henry on Jun 4, 2005 15:07:26 GMT -5
Roland. I looked to see if someone may have accidentally voted for "Desperado" instead of "This Masquerade". Three separate people voted for "Desperado" - but one of them did not post a message. It looks like smoothie forgot to vote when she posted her message - she's the missing vote for "This Masquerade". Hi Beaner as for the choices for "missed hit". I picked one from each original album released during Karen's life. I also only used the songs which have been historically considered the missed hits by fans and Carpenters insiders. Such as "Let Me Be The One" and "Desperado" were both considered for release as a single but both missed out to other choices being "Superstar" and "Solitaire" respectively. Richard also considered releasing "I Just Fall In Love Again" as a single but claims he just couldn't find a way to edit it down to three and a half minutes for AM radio airplay. As much as I love "And When He Smiles" it has never really been considered a missed hit. Great song though. I love the upbeat cheerful mood of it. I've played countless times and is a favorite whenever I listen to "As Time Goes By".
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Post by karen69roland on Jun 4, 2005 16:08:34 GMT -5
The *Align Center* function is pretty cool, Rick.
..., it's always been there, but, I never tried it... I'm trying it now. [glow=red,2,300][/glow][shadow=red,left,300] [/shadow][shadow=red,left,300]Roland Chayer[/shadow][shadow=red,left,300] [/shadow]
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