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Post by GoodOldDreams on Jun 8, 2007 0:47:29 GMT -5
...So, Dreams, I think that I must completely agree that reading through some of the posts has changed my perception of several songs. I recall the song-by-song thread and reading what people had to say about some of the tunes as we did album by album, and I was amazed to read things I'd never thought of in the way they had mentioned them, or things I'd never heard before. My perceptions have changed on plenty of songs. I think I've noticed it mostly on the Kind of Hush album. There used to be several tunes that, again, though I listened to them, weren't my favorites....but through the interpretations from others on the forum, I was able to clearly "see and hear" things I'd not seen nor heard before, and that made all the difference. Very interesting topic...thanks for bringing it up, Dreams. Tim You're welcome, Tim. I expected people to be moved in their opinions or perceptions in the company of others whom they respect on a particular subject. It's like taking an art or music appreciation class and then finding yourself enamored with the subject as never before. Or perhaps traveling to an exotic country and then finding yourself changing your frame of reference at home surrounded by mementos to relive those sights, sounds, aromas, and tastes again and again. For me, Rick's discussions on the unusual and technically challenging tempo of "All I Can Do" and Karen's playing of the bass guitar on "All of My Life" have revved up my interest in these songs and appreciation for Karen's multi-faceted talents! Too bad Karen wasn't given much opportunity to showcase her instrumental skills more as time went on...
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Post by Rick Henry on Jun 8, 2007 10:58:03 GMT -5
...So, Dreams, I think that I must completely agree that reading through some of the posts has changed my perception of several songs. I recall the song-by-song thread and reading what people had to say about some of the tunes as we did album by album, and I was amazed to read things I'd never thought of in the way they had mentioned them, or things I'd never heard before. My perceptions have changed on plenty of songs. I think I've noticed it mostly on the Kind of Hush album. There used to be several tunes that, again, though I listened to them, weren't my favorites....but through the interpretations from others on the forum, I was able to clearly "see and hear" things I'd not seen nor heard before, and that made all the difference. Very interesting topic...thanks for bringing it up, Dreams. Tim You're welcome, Tim. I expected people to be moved in their opinions or perceptions in the company of others whom they respect on a particular subject. It's like taking an art or music appreciation class and then finding yourself enamored with the subject as never before. Or perhaps traveling to an exotic country and then finding yourself changing your frame of reference at home surrounded by mementos to relive those sights, sounds, aromas, and tastes again and again. For me, Rick's discussions on the unusual and technically challenging tempo of "All I Can Do" and Karen's playing of the bass guitar on "All of My Life" have revved up my interest in these songs and appreciation for Karen's multi-faceted talents! Too bad Karen wasn't given much opportunity to showcase her instrumental skills more as time went on... Dreams... I completely agree that it is too bad that Karen wasn't given the opportunity to showcase her instrumental skills more. I felt her ability as a drummer was remarkable. Fortunately she does play drums on all of "Offering" (Ticket To Ride) and all of "Now And Then" with the exception of "Jambalaya". She also plays drums on a few tracks on the "Close To You" album and also on the song "Please Mr. Postman" and one song from "Made In America". Though, in my mind Karen should have been playing drums on the majority of the songs on every single album. I have always been interested in educating Carpenters fans on the atypical (not standard - maybe edgy) Carpenters songs such as "Nowadays Clancy Can't Even Sing", "All I Can Do", "Another Song", "Road Ode", "Desperado", "Boat To Sail", "B'wana She No Home" and others. I do this because generally your typical Carpenters fan (not all - just generally) has pushed these particular songs aside because they're not your standard Carpenters sound - when in all actuality the musicianship in these songs is spectacular - some of Carpenters' most intense and creative works. I've found that a good portion of people don't look much further than the lyrics and the vocals - which is a shame as there really is some fantastic musicianship behind every single song Carpenters ever recorded. That's why I'm here to bring some attention to the very tasty musicianship and technical workings (in both the music and vocals) of the Carpenters (and also Karen's solo work). The funny thing about songs like "B'wana...", "Nowadays...", "Another Song", "All I Can Do" and the others I mentioned above, in most instances it's the non-Carpenters fan that hears the appeal in these songs more than the Carpenters fan does.
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Post by YesterdayOnceMore on Jun 18, 2007 21:00:03 GMT -5
You're welcome, Tim. I expected people to be moved in their opinions or perceptions in the company of others whom they respect on a particular subject. It's like taking an art or music appreciation class and then finding yourself enamored with the subject as never before. Or perhaps traveling to an exotic country and then finding yourself changing your frame of reference at home surrounded by mementos to relive those sights, sounds, aromas, and tastes again and again. For me, Rick's discussions on the unusual and technically challenging tempo of "All I Can Do" and Karen's playing of the bass guitar on "All of My Life" have revved up my interest in these songs and appreciation for Karen's multi-faceted talents! Too bad Karen wasn't given much opportunity to showcase her instrumental skills more as time went on... Dreams... I completely agree that it is too bad that Karen wasn't given the opportunity to showcase her instrumental skills more. I felt her ability as a drummer was remarkable. Fortunately she does play drums on all of "Offering" (Ticket To Ride) and all of "Now And Then" with the exception of "Jambalaya". She also plays drums on a few tracks on the "Close To You" album and also on the song "Please Mr. Postman" and one song from "Made In America". Though, in my mind Karen should have been playing drums on the majority of the songs on every single album. I have always been interested in educating Carpenters fans on the atypical (not standard - maybe edgy) Carpenters songs such as "Nowadays Clancy Can't Even Sing", "All I Can Do", "Another Song", "Road Ode", "Desperado", "Boat To Sail", "B'wana She No Home" and others. I do this because generally your typical Carpenters fan (not all - just generally) has pushed these particular songs aside because they're not your standard Carpenters sound - when in all actuality the musicianship in these songs is spectacular - some of Carpenters' most intense and creative works. I've found that a good portion of people don't look much further than the lyrics and the vocals - which is a shame as there really is some fantastic musicianship behind every single song Carpenters ever recorded. That's why I'm here to bring some attention to the very tasty musicianship and technical workings (in both the music and vocals) of the Carpenters (and also Karen's solo work). The funny thing about songs like "B'wana...", "Nowadays...", "Another Song", "All I Can Do" and the others I mentioned above, in most instances it's the non-Carpenters fan that hears the appeal in these songs more than the Carpenters fan does. I have to completely agree with you on the point, Rick, that in most instances, it's the non-Carpenter's fan that hears "an" appeal in the songs you mentioned - B'wana - Nowadays, Another song, etc., more than the Carpenters fan....at least on this forum, DID. Because, I think through our discussions of these tunes, each of us has come to perhaps appreciate a bit more of each song than we had before the discussion. Yes Dreams, I agree with you and all about the education factor - I have said many times on this forum, I learn something new almost each time I log-on. New education and appreciation for the music - or the making of the music - or the history of how the song was made - or the artist/composer (Palm comes to mind, here ), or perhaps what was also going on at the time the song was recorded. I'm always learning something, seemingly, and in that learning, perceptions have changed. Great thread. Thanks again. Tim
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Post by Rick Henry on Jun 18, 2007 21:59:40 GMT -5
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Post by smoothie2 on Jun 21, 2007 0:19:39 GMT -5
thanks for the xtra info. on that. "Love Songs" is a wonderful compilation.
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