Live In Holland

[Rick Henry]

I finally received the "Live In Holland" DVD yesterday.

It's a concert which was shown on television in Holland. What I have is 35 minutes long. And it was from a concert in Holland in November 1976.

I'll start first with what I felt were the disappointments. First the picture quality is only fair. At some points it's very dark and hard to see. It was also too short. It looks like some of it was cut off at the end. When the DVD ended I said to myself, "is that all?"

Now for the good points. I really enjoyed the concert. Karen was as always in excellent voice. She sang perfectly on key. The concert began with the "Flat Baroque/Only Yesterday Medley" and then moved right into "There's A Kind Of Hush". The concert almost seemed like a broadway stage play. It was quite entertaining.
Some of the highlights for me were:
The performance of "Sing", Karen goes into the audience and talks with individuals. She has them sing "la, la, la,la..." into her microphone which ends up being used in the performance of the song "Sing". It's pretty humorous as the audience participants are off-key.
The "Grease Medley" is excellent. I especially love the part where Karen comes out wearing a tight sweater with a huge, huge fake breast and skin tight capri pants and a beehive styled wig. She is an absolute hoot. At this point she sings "We Go Together" and "Look At Me I'm Sandra Dee".
Karen's drum solo medley is outstanding. For this she's wearing her famous lead sister t-shirt. She is just having the time of her life playing her drums and she does an excellent job. Of course when she's done the audience thunders with applause. I think it was the longest applause of the show.

My next purchase will be the 1971 BBC concert.

[Rick Henry]

Another good thing about the concert is that it brought a wave of notalgia to me. It reminded me quite a bit of when I saw the Carpenters live in Las Vegas in December 1977.

[smoothie2]

Sounds like overall a great concert...and thanks for telling us about it. I didn't realize until the topic came up here on the forum, about "Look at me I'm S. Dee" that K. and R. had had some fun with a Grease medley....it fits in very well with the other string of nostalgic oldies thing.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Karen would have looked cute dressed in traditional Holland type clothes, the curved hat and wooden shoes...
I'm really glad you were able to get this DVD, even though it had some flaws..I enjoy hearing about all the concerts anyone went to or have on tape, or recall from tv. It's always a real pleasure to "see the C's"!

[YesterdayOnceMore]

Thanks for letting us know about this Rick. Sounds like whether or not there were some flaws, that it was worth watching..

I've been watching Carpenters shows all week, thanks to Roland. It's amazing - Karen seems to be an absolute natural in front of the camera. And, it didn't matter who she was with - if it was Rich, she was of course the one who made the scene bearble to watch - just that Richard was so stiff, even when trying not to be. When Karen was with Denver or Davidson, she just seemed to be in her element. Like she'd been doing TV forever. When she did her famous drum medley, it was as if she'd been doing it for years and years. She not only did the musical portion so incredibly, but she laughed, made faces, and acted like she was having an absolute blast on stage. And, as if it were simply second nature for her to perform in front of a TV camera. Amazing.

How about this show, Rick? You said Karen went out in the audience. Does she look like this is something that was uneasy for her to do, or does she look like this is a normal everyday thing for her?

Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us.
Tim

;D ;D

[Rick Henry]

Tim, in "Live In Holland" both Karen and Richard went out into the audience during the song "Sing". But Karen did much more interacting with the audience. And yes she seemed very comfortable. Though one thing struck me funny she spoke with a man in the audience for a few minutes. He spoke in his native language which may have been Dutch (or whichever language is spoken in Holland). She ended up introducing herself to the man in his language and then made a totally funny face and unusual body gesture. This just made me crack up. She was such an unusually funny person.

[BethMosior]

I'm really glad you got the video Rick I also thought it was coooool when Karen spoke alittle Dutch ( I think thats what it was ) when I need a good laugh or just to put a smile on my face, I watch this video

[Christian]

admin said:

I finally received the "Live In Holland" DVD yesterday.

It's a concert which was shown on television in Holland. What I have is 35 minutes long. And it was from a concert in Holland in November 1976.

I'll start first with what I felt were the disappointments. First the picture quality is only fair. At some points it's very dark and hard to see. It was also too short. It looks like some of it was cut off at the end. When the DVD ended I said to myself, "is that all?"

Now for the good points. I really enjoyed the concert. Karen was as always in excellent voice. She sang perfectly on key. The concert began with the "Flat Baroque/Only Yesterday Medley" and then moved right into "There's A Kind Of Hush". The concert almost seemed like a broadway stage play. It was quite entertaining.
Some of the highlights for me were:
The performance of "Sing", Karen goes into the audience and talks with individuals. She has them sing "la, la, la,la..." into her microphone which ends up being used in the performance of the song "Sing". It's pretty humorous as the audience participants are off-key.
The "Grease Medley" is excellent. I especially love the part where Karen comes out wearing a tight sweater with a huge, huge fake breast and skin tight capri pants and a beehive styled wig. She is an absolute hoot. At this point she sings "We Go Together" and "Look At Me I'm Sandra Dee".
Karen's drum solo medley is outstanding. For this she's wearing her famous lead sister t-shirt. She is just having the time of her life playing her drums and she does an excellent job. Of course when she's done the audience thunders with applause. I think it was the longest applause of the show.

My next purchase will be the 1971 BBC concert.

I`ve had Live In Holland for years now, and like you say Rick, the picture quality is really poor.
But I enjoyed it alot, even if it was short as well. I already had the Live In Japan, and it was fun to see how different this concert was. How much it changed after it was re-vamped by Ken and Mitzie.
Karen`s drum solo was my favourite as I had heard it on Live at the Palladium and was stunned by it.
If you want to see more of how their show looked like, I suggest getting the Japanese karaoke DVD as much of the footage on it is from their concerts.( 1976)
There is also a live performance of I Need To Be In Love which is worth the cost of the DVD alone, it`s amazing!!

As for the 1971 BBC concert, I found this while trying to use the Azeurus/ Bit-torrents thing (anyone know this?)
It is fantastic in quality, simply great!!
And Karen sounds fantastic! She actually sounds identical to the albums even if it`s live.
Superstar and Rainy Days are fantastic!!
Since this is not an official release, I had no objections on downloading it, just as fair as spending money buying it on Ebay etc.
It`s not a very long show either, but worth having!

I also have Space Encounters and it is DVD quality, not some overcopied worn-out videotape.
Funny show and I am so thrilled because the quality is so amazing! So you can get lucky and find some top quality copies of it.

[Rick Henry]

Hi Christian. Wonderful to hear from you after such a long time!


Ken and Mitzie did an excellent job revamping the Carpenters' stage show. It's very entertaining. Though I am looking forward to seeing the 1971 BBC concert. Does Karen play drums throughout the entire show? That's what I want to see. I'd like to see her sing and drum at the same time. Karen was such a fantastic talent.

I do own the karaoke DVD. I love the live concert footage and yes Karen does an awesome job singing "I Need To Be In Love" live. She is flawless in that live performance.

I also have "Space Encounters" and the "First Special" but the picture quality on both is average. I would love DVD quality copies of both some day.

[karen69roland]

admin said:

I am looking forward to seeing the 1971 BBC concert. Does Karen play drums throughout the entire show?

No, she doesn't.
Some songs are lips-sync and play-sync, also..., but some are live.



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[Rick Henry]

Are there any concerts available out there where Karen plays drums and sings through the entire concert?

[karen69roland]

I don't have any..., I'd love to, though.
It would have to be a '69-'70 concert, I think..., *Carpenters* wise.



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[Rick Henry]

karen69roland said:

admin said:

I am looking forward to seeing the 1971 BBC concert. Does Karen play drums throughout the entire show?

No, she doesn't.
Some songs are lips-sync and play-sync, also..., but some are live.



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I was under the impression that Karen sang live in all Carpenters concerts. But here you state that she was lip synching. I'd like to hear more about this. Was this concert filmed for television is that why there would be lip synching?

[enigma]

admin said:

karen69roland said:

No, she doesn't.
Some songs are lips-sync and play-sync, also..., but some are live.



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I was under the impression that Karen sang live in all Carpenters concerts. But here you state that she was lip synching. I'd like to hear more about this. Was this concert filmed for television is that why there would be lip synching?

Rick
I own this concert as well and Karen only lip synced on part of the concert It was during the Bacharach Medley and somewhere else I cannot remember (these performances were pre recorded for the BBC concert) but most of it was indeed live and this is well worth getting. Rick I love the concert and Karen does play alot of drums during the concert even plays drums and sings live no lyp syncing. Karen was beautiful, healthy and Karen sang one of the few full versions of superstar live (she was not drumming on this one) and also her demonstation of her ability to sing and drum was evident in this performance. You will also note the contrast in this performance and other videos like live in Japan 1974 Karen really loosened up more as time went by and moved more on stage. It is a must have for Carpenters fans but beware there are some shortened versions out there which cut alot of the best parts out if its only 30 minutes don't buy it it should be about 45 minutes for the Carpenters performance alone. Get this concert Rick its well worth it I really loved it myself.

[karen69roland]

I don't know the reason why, Rick..., but, that's definitely a TV performance.

Here's the set list...

Help - Album version - KC on drums
Love Is Surrender - Not album version - KC on drums
Superstar - Not album version - KC not on drums
And When He Smiles - KC on drums
Rainy Days And Mondays - Not album version - KC not on drums
Bacharach Medley - Album version - KC on drums
For All We Know - Not album version - KC not on drums
Sometimes - Not album version
Close To You - Not album version - KC not on drums
We've Only Just Begun - Not album version - KC not on drums

So, only two songs are the album versions..., but, some of the others(if not all) seem pre-recorded..., some indications of that - Richard was surprised when the piano starts before him in *Rainy Days And Mondays* - Both Karen and Richard are making a mistake at the beginning of *Close To You*.



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[Sammy]

A few years back I saw a live performance of And When He Smiles on a website. This is one of my favorite songs. I'm so happy they released it on As Time Goes By.

[enigma]

This is the OFFICIAL set on the live at the BBC concert and the writup on the concert.

1 Help (pre-recorded)
2 Love Is Surrender
3 Superstar
4 And When He Smiles
5 Rainy Days And Mondays
6 That On The Road Look (Tony Joe White)
7 I Fell In Love With You
8 Bacharach/David Medley (pre-recorded)
9 For All We Know
10 Lust For Earl And The Married Woman (Tony Joe White)
11 Sometimes
12 Close To You
13 We've Only Just Begun

Complete and unedited concert with special guest Tony Joe White recorded live at the BBC studios, London on 25 September 1971 and first broadcast 6 November 1971. Running time approximately 50 minutes.

As it states it is a LIVE concert done in the BBC studios as ALL live at the BBC presentations are done and yes they were televised but also Yes this concert is live unles otherwise stated in the official list. I am certain someone will take this the wrong way but I am going by this official writeup and set list so I BELIEVE it is live and when I hear it in my headphones there is evidence that this was not prerecorded other than the noted selections. No offense to anyone who hears it differently or thinks its prerecorded I am only stating What I BELIEVE is the case. Hopefully this wont need to be moved to too hot to handle I have restated my case and I will leave it at that.

[karen69roland]

I bet this one will be moved.

Those you say are pre-recorded are not only pre-recorded, but, they are the exact album versions.

The proof of some(if not all) of the songs are TV pre-recorded is like I mentioned when Richard is surprised when the piano starts before him in *Rainy Days And Mondays*.

I would very much like to see/hear *I Fell In Love With You* and the two songs with the guest.



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[Rick Henry]

FYI: Threads are only moved if personal bashing becomes involved. A good debate is not personal bashing.

Enigma does bring up a good point. Though it wouldn't surprise me if parts of this concert are prerecorded mixed with live performances. Though I don't know as I don't own this concert yet.